Stifler Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I don't get it, why do they keep going for old players on expensive wages? If they are signing him then I think that means they don't see Johnson's court case ending well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 How have they not gone bankrupt signing players over 26. Think it's a good signing tbh, quite like downing or did anyway. Even at 30 prob has 4 or 5 years in him, solid signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 On 27/06/2015 at 11:41, nufc4eva said: How have they not gone bankrupt signing players over 26. Think it's a good signing tbh, quite like downing or did anyway. Even at 30 prob has 4 or 5 years in him, solid signing I'm guessing it's due to the Sky TV deal(s) To be honest the fact we have to stop relegation every season, coupled with that we're in an unattractive part of the country means we go one of two ways when signing players. a) We sign young, hungry players who see us as a stepping stone and replace them with proper planning in place OR b) we rely on loans and those on their last legs or not wanted by anyone else. Brown, O'Shea etc. It's the way it is now. No one will ever get close to the elite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 On 27/06/2015 at 23:04, hithere said: Quote How have they not gone bankrupt signing players over 26. Think it's a good signing tbh, quite like downing or did anyway. Even at 30 prob has 4 or 5 years in him, solid signing I'm guessing it's due to the Sky TV deal(s) To be honest the fact we have to stop relegation every season, coupled with that we're in an unattractive part of the country means we go one of two ways when signing players. a) We sign young, hungry players who see us as a stepping stone and replace them with proper planning in place OR b) we rely on loans and those on their last legs or not wanted by anyone else. Brown, O'Shea etc. It's the way it is now. No one will ever get close to the elite You should atleast go for option 1. I'm not trying to be funny but we managed to sign a few hungry players soon after we came up, Stoke manage to do decent. Stoke is tauter like you, not exactly a club anyone without any affiliation towards the club would jump at he chance to go too and not in a desirable area. However Stoke is near Burmingham which may sway players and you are close to Newcastle which could sway players. As much as Sunderland are our rivals you should be doing better. There are smaller clubs in fairly undesirable areas coming in to the Premier League which have out done you. You can't keep blaming the blame game, yes some players won't see past London or mega unrealistic wages, but you should be getting better than what you get. You only have your board and your DOF who has links to some of the dodgiest agents in the game to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 On 27/06/2015 at 23:14, Stifler said: Quote Quote How have they not gone bankrupt signing players over 26. Think it's a good signing tbh, quite like downing or did anyway. Even at 30 prob has 4 or 5 years in him, solid signing I'm guessing it's due to the Sky TV deal(s) To be honest the fact we have to stop relegation every season, coupled with that we're in an unattractive part of the country means we go one of two ways when signing players. a) We sign young, hungry players who see us as a stepping stone and replace them with proper planning in place OR b) we rely on loans and those on their last legs or not wanted by anyone else. Brown, O'Shea etc. It's the way it is now. No one will ever get close to the elite You should atleast go for option 1. I'm not trying to be funny but we managed to sign a few hungry players soon after we came up, Stoke manage to do decent. Stoke is tauter like you, not exactly a club anyone without any affiliation towards the club would jump at he chance to go too and not in a desirable area. However Stoke is near Burmingham which may sway players and you are close to Newcastle which could sway players. As much as Sunderland are our rivals you should be doing better. There are smaller clubs in fairly undesirable areas coming in to the Premier League which have out done you. You can't keep blaming the blame game, yes some players won't see past London or mega unrealistic wages, but you should be getting better than what you get. You only have your board and your DOF who has links to some of the dodgiest agents in the game to blame. 9-1, 5 in a row, 1992, FTM. marra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Want Harper as back up keeper in The Sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 How nice of a place is Swansea by the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 On 28/06/2015 at 08:19, sempuki said: Want Harper as back up keeper in The Sun. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 On 28/06/2015 at 08:57, Dr.Spaceman said: How nice of a place is Swansea by the way? No idea about the surrounding areas but the City is absolutely dire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 On 27/06/2015 at 23:14, Stifler said: Quote Quote How have they not gone bankrupt signing players over 26. Think it's a good signing tbh, quite like downing or did anyway. Even at 30 prob has 4 or 5 years in him, solid signing I'm guessing it's due to the Sky TV deal(s) To be honest the fact we have to stop relegation every season, coupled with that we're in an unattractive part of the country means we go one of two ways when signing players. a) We sign young, hungry players who see us as a stepping stone and replace them with proper planning in place OR b) we rely on loans and those on their last legs or not wanted by anyone else. Brown, O'Shea etc. It's the way it is now. No one will ever get close to the elite You should atleast go for option 1. I'm not trying to be funny but we managed to sign a few hungry players soon after we came up, Stoke manage to do decent. Stoke is tauter like you, not exactly a club anyone without any affiliation towards the club would jump at he chance to go too and not in a desirable area. However Stoke is near Burmingham which may sway players and you are close to Newcastle which could sway players. As much as Sunderland are our rivals you should be doing better. There are smaller clubs in fairly undesirable areas coming in to the Premier League which have out done you. You can't keep blaming the blame game, yes some players won't see past London or mega unrealistic wages, but you should be getting better than what you get. You only have your board and your DOF who has links to some of the dodgiest agents in the game to blame. I agree with the general gist of your post but think location is a much bigger factor. Tbf Stoke are in a position to benefit hugely from their location. Within commutable distance from both West Mids and Greater Manchester as well as having Cheshire, which is where most good players in the North West live, on it's doorstep. I'd imagine offering the chance to play in the PL without having to relocate and uproot the family/Mrs is a decent selling point whether they're picking up cast-offs from the Manchester/Merseyside clubs, out of contract/favour players from the likes of Villa or even if they fancied cherry picking talent from the lower leagues (Wolves etc) or academies such as Crewe. And if you're in the shit and need a loan, there are that many decent teams nearby you're bound to find one with a capable squad player that needs a game who would be happy to come for a couple months as it's nearby anyway. The mackems on the other hand, as well as us, are completely geographically isolated from the rest of the PL. And they haven't even got any decent bridges to tweet pictures of to potential signings. The fact both clubs are run ridiculously badly, as you say, is also going to put players off so when you can't offer convenience, or a set-up which is likely to offer decent progression to a player, you end up resorting to paying a premium in wages. And as such resorting to the kind of players attracted by that- generally mercenary, mediocre, unmotivated piss takers who will only pull their fingers out when required to earn a new contract or stave off relegation in order to avoid the resultant pay cut. Which as far as I can see is the problem Sunderland have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Both clubs should be using the talent in local area and developing them. Only chance long term either have of being up there. Sunderland had a class academy didn't they but have not really brought any through. Players like Downing are worth having as long as it's a mix of youth and experience, Downing is a good role model for younger players and a solid professional, not amazing but can hold his own in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 stoke is a fucking shithole inhabited by inbred morons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 On 28/06/2015 at 08:57, Dr.Spaceman said: How nice of a place is Swansea by the way? City's not great but the Gower peninsula is beautiful. Not sure it has much to offer some 22 year old walking haircut obsessed with sleeve tats and spit roasting... Which is how i've just stereotyped EVERY premier league footballer. Deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Walking haircut is one of my favourite new insults like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Walking haircut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 On 28/06/2015 at 20:57, Dr.Spaceman said: Walking haircut Downing would be a good signing for them (as it would be for us). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Coates signed permanently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Catts signed a new six year deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 http://footballspeak.com/PostImages/uploadedimage/2011_11_18_14_41.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Agree fee for celtic player adam Mathews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Means Jenko won't be bringing his banter to Wearside then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Not that good according to his wiki Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 On 02/07/2015 at 18:55, gdm said: Agree fee for celtic player adam Mathews Looks like Lombaarts, Lens and van Ginkel could be in too. Certainly the first one is close, other two are decent players mind(not seen Lens for a while mind) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 On 03/07/2015 at 12:33, Roger Kint said: Quote Agree fee for celtic player adam Mathews Looks like Lombaarts, Lens and van Ginkel could be in too. Certainly the first one is close, other two are decent players mind(not seen Lens for a while mind) If nowt else, he's rapido quick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Dear God no, not good Dutch players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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