Guest Roger Kint Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Wish i didnt read the first two apages of that shite, they genuinely think the figures are for this year now and not last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If City win the league we're in Europe so that's gotta help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If City win the league we're in Europe so that's gotta help. You can't expect them to understand how you get into Europe man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If City win the league we're in Europe so that's gotta help. You can't expect them to understand how you get into Europe man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Cannot believe some of them still think they could get into Europe man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Cannot believe some of them still think they could get into Europe man what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 They certainly aren't getting in through the fair play league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Just reading that thread, its like a hailstorm of dropping Pennies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That thread is genius, like. Some corking responses in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 A lot of head scratching, then when the Neanderthal confusion sets in resort to "watch your letterbox marra!". My eyes hurt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/ki-shops-in-tesco-with-safc-tracksuit.892859/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm beginning to worry now like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 These face financial meltdown if they get relegated. http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/safc-made-%C2%A323m-loss-last-year.893176/ no profits there... This is a club whose owners seem to actually want to do well. Money is spent. Managers come and go through a revolving door and they still can't make any progress. Meanwhile Ashley couldn't give a s**t and we've still been in europe recently and even now we're only a couple of places behind their best ever prem' finish of 7th, almost by accident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Interesting note...... Sunderland's gate receipts fell from £14 million to £12.6 million. Conference and banqueting income halved to £2.3 million. So at the same time as the fans are demanding Ellis Short to put his hand into his pocket and invest more money into the club, the fans are doing the opposite and are investing less. Hmmm, looks like the fans have no ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Interesting note...... Sunderland's gate receipts fell from £14 million to £12.6 million. Conference and banqueting income halved to £2.3 million. So at the same time as the fans are demanding Ellis Short to put his hand into his pocket and invest more money into the club, the fans are doing the opposite and are investing less. Hmmm, looks like the fans have no ambition. The Free Ticket Mackems schemes can't be helping either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Going down isn't such a bad thing for them. What they lose in the tv deal they'll claw back in a few sales, a mandatory 40% pay cut for those who stay while several big contracts run out completely. They'll trim the fat, find a winning way and probably enjoy it a lot more for a bit and come straight back up. Then with some planned investment they can push on and have a squad fully built around poyets plans. As a club we changed after relegation, no longer a soft touch in wages and transfer fees, if they do the same they'll come out the other side a more balanced club still backed by an owner who cares enough to keep going and put funds in. Instead of covering £23m losses he can add to the squad. Stay up, may just allow the trend to continue, imagine us keeping Owen & duff, viduka etc...ugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Going down isn't such a bad thing for them. What they lose in the tv deal they'll claw back in a few sales, a mandatory 40% pay cut for those who stay while several big contracts run out completely. They'll trim the fat, find a winning way and probably enjoy it a lot more for a bit and come straight back up. Then with some planned investment they can push on and have a squad fully built around poyets plans. As a club we changed after relegation, no longer a soft touch in wages and transfer fees, if they do the same they'll come out the other side a more balanced club still backed by an owner who cares enough to keep going and put funds in. Instead of covering £23m losses he can add to the squad. Stay up, may just allow the trend to continue, imagine us keeping Owen & duff, viduka etc...ugh. Exactly. Although relegation is painful for us fans, it can be a godsend to the bean counters. You lot got rid of some right pap when you went down, and you came straight back up in a much healthier financial state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Going down isn't such a bad thing for them. What they lose in the tv deal they'll claw back in a few sales, a mandatory 40% pay cut for those who stay while several big contracts run out completely. They'll trim the fat, find a winning way and probably enjoy it a lot more for a bit and come straight back up. Then with some planned investment they can push on and have a squad fully built around poyets plans. As a club we changed after relegation, no longer a soft touch in wages and transfer fees, if they do the same they'll come out the other side a more balanced club still backed by an owner who cares enough to keep going and put funds in. Instead of covering £23m losses he can add to the squad. Stay up, may just allow the trend to continue, imagine us keeping Owen & duff, viduka etc...ugh. Exactly. Although relegation is painful for us fans, it can be a godsend to the bean counters. You lot got rid of some right pap when you went down, and you came straight back up in a much healthier financial state. for every 'us' there's a Leeds btw, just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Going down isn't such a bad thing for them. What they lose in the tv deal they'll claw back in a few sales, a mandatory 40% pay cut for those who stay while several big contracts run out completely. They'll trim the fat, find a winning way and probably enjoy it a lot more for a bit and come straight back up. Then with some planned investment they can push on and have a squad fully built around poyets plans. As a club we changed after relegation, no longer a soft touch in wages and transfer fees, if they do the same they'll come out the other side a more balanced club still backed by an owner who cares enough to keep going and put funds in. Instead of covering £23m losses he can add to the squad. Stay up, may just allow the trend to continue, imagine us keeping Owen & duff, viduka etc...ugh. Exactly. Although relegation is painful for us fans, it can be a godsend to the bean counters. You lot got rid of some right pap when you went down, and you came straight back up in a much healthier financial state. for every 'us' there's a Leeds btw, just saying. More chance of a Leicester, derby, forest than either, statistically speaking. What Leeds didn't have is a billionaire backer. So no chance of a Leeds in this case. We came out of it a much better club, we'd be completely on track had we had short instead of Ashley. That's a huge advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 We wouldn't have went down in the first place if we had a 'Short' tbf. He'd have lurched from solution to solution similar to what he is doing at Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Aye bouncing straight back up is hardly a given. QPR have a loaded owner and they are looking like they'll miss out on automatic promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Aye bouncing straight back up is hardly a given. QPR have a loaded owner and they are looking like they'll miss out on automatic promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 for every 'us' there's a Leeds btw, just saying. Leeds situation was unique, in as much as the players Ridsdale brought in were 'leased' and not owned by the club IIRC. They've never recovered from that. Look, I'd rather we didn't go down, but we have too many s*** players on ridiculous wages, and getting relegated would be the ideal opportunity to offload them and start again, as Newcastle found out not too long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 for every 'us' there's a Leeds btw, just saying. Leeds situation was unique, in as much as the players Ridsdale brought in were 'leased' and not owned by the club IIRC. They've never recovered from that. Look, I'd rather we didn't go down, but we have too many s*** players on ridiculous wages, and getting relegated would be the ideal opportunity to offload them and start again, as Newcastle found out not too long ago. You should be begging for it, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Honestly think Sunderland need to go down to give them the chance to rip it up and start afresh. Finishing 17th or whatever will probably mean another struggle next season and so on. Go down, lance the boil and come back up a leaner, better squad, it's shit in the short-term but if they've got a bit of nous then they may be able to work it in their favour. General consensus on the SMB is that losing 10+ players is a good thing. Just means 10+ players will need to be signed to replace them, 10+ signing-on fees, 10+ agents to be paid and 10+ players who aren't going to play for free. It's a hell of a blow but if the situation is managed correctly then a team can bounce back stronger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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