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How have they not gone bankrupt signing players over 26. Think it's a good signing tbh, quite like downing or did anyway. Even at 30 prob has 4 or 5 years in him, solid signing

 

I'm guessing it's due to the Sky TV deal(s)

 

To be honest the fact we have to stop relegation every season, coupled with that we're in an unattractive part of the country means we go one of two ways when signing players.

 

a) We sign young, hungry players who see us as a stepping stone and replace  them with proper planning in place

 

OR

 

b) we rely on loans and those on their last legs or not wanted by anyone else. Brown, O'Shea etc.

 

It's the way it is now. No one will ever get close to the elite

You should atleast go for option 1.

I'm not trying to be funny but we managed to sign a few hungry players soon after we came up, Stoke manage to do decent. Stoke is tauter like you, not exactly a club anyone without any affiliation towards the club would jump at he chance to go too and not in a desirable area. However Stoke is near Burmingham which may sway players and you are close to Newcastle which could sway players.

 

As much as Sunderland are our rivals you should be doing better. There are smaller clubs in fairly undesirable areas coming in to the Premier League which have out done you.

You can't keep blaming the blame game, yes some players won't see past London or mega unrealistic wages, but you should be getting better than what you get. You only have your board and your DOF who has links to some of the dodgiest agents in the game to blame.

 

I agree with the general gist of your post but think location is a much bigger factor.

 

Tbf Stoke are in a position to benefit hugely from their location. Within commutable distance from both West Mids and Greater Manchester as well as having Cheshire, which is where most good players in the North West live, on it's doorstep. I'd imagine offering the chance to play in the PL without having to relocate and uproot the family/Mrs is a decent selling point whether they're picking up cast-offs from the Manchester/Merseyside clubs, out of contract/favour players from the likes of Villa or even if they fancied cherry picking talent from the lower leagues (Wolves etc) or academies such as Crewe. And if you're in the shit and need a loan, there are that many decent teams nearby you're bound to find one with a capable squad player that needs a game who would be happy to come for a couple months as it's nearby anyway.

 

The mackems on the other hand, as well as us, are completely geographically isolated from the rest of the PL. And they haven't even got any decent bridges to tweet pictures of to potential signings. :lol:

 

The fact both clubs are run ridiculously badly, as you say, is also going to put players off so when you can't offer convenience, or a set-up which is likely to offer decent progression to a player, you end up resorting to paying a premium in wages. And as such resorting to the kind of players attracted by that- generally mercenary, mediocre, unmotivated piss takers who will only pull their fingers out when required to earn a new contract or stave off relegation in order to avoid the resultant pay cut. Which as far as I can see is the problem Sunderland have.

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Both clubs should be using the talent in local area and developing them. Only chance long term either have of being up there. Sunderland had a class academy didn't they but have not really brought any through. Players like Downing are worth having as long as it's a mix of youth and experience, Downing is a good role model for younger players and a solid professional, not amazing but can hold his own in the league

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How nice of a place is Swansea by the way?

 

City's not great but the Gower peninsula is beautiful. Not sure it has much to offer some 22 year old walking haircut obsessed with sleeve tats and spit roasting...

 

Which is how i've just stereotyped EVERY premier league footballer. Deal with it.

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Guest Roger Kint

Agree fee for celtic player adam Mathews

 

Looks like Lombaarts, Lens and van Ginkel could be in too. Certainly the first one is close, other two are decent players mind(not seen Lens for a while mind)

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Agree fee for celtic player adam Mathews

 

Looks like Lombaarts, Lens and van Ginkel could be in too. Certainly the first one is close, other two are decent players mind(not seen Lens for a while mind)

 

If nowt else, he's rapido quick.

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I see their home game with Tottenham has moved to the day of the Great North Run. Bit of a bummer if you'd planned to do both or traveling from Newcastle to the match

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Hate some of their fan's Arsenal love in. Support your own team, ffs, there's no Arsenal-Sunderland friendship and there's never going to be.

 

Besides, Dan Smith, more than enough reason for no Arsenal fan to like them anyway.

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Half Half scarves to our home game

 

Mental especially since they defended that tosser Dan Smith who cries victim about his so awesome career being ruined by Diaby while currently playing 2nd division of the Brisbane league.

 

Yup, not even the A league. And they defended him, because the tackle wasn't "that bad"

 

 

 

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