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AyeDubbleYoo

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Let's say Pardew's been assured all summer that Bent is a legitimate target. He's available cheaply, wants out of his current club and has worked with Pardew before. Pardew knows the funds are there based on bids for other players. Pardew prepares for the season based on having Bent to choose from up front, possibly contemplating playing 4-4-2 or at the least dreaming of proven goalscoring cover up front (the horror!). Training perhaps involves getting wide and creating chances for two out and out goalscorers. Crossing, balls in behind. Then - over a month after it became known publicly that the player was a target and after Pardew has been quoted on multiple occasions saying that he wants him - after half of preseason had been played and with just over two weeks before the start of the season it turns out we actually aren't prepared to pay more than £2m for a 29 year old international player with two years left on his contract, and to boot we won't come close to our competitors on his wages.

 

If that's not wasting valuable time then I don't know what is.

 

 

Well it depends doesn't it? We don't know what Pardew was or wasn't told about how legitimate a target Bent was. You've just made that bit up.

 

We also don't know what else was happening at the same time (looking at Gomis, Remy, possibly others for example... waiting to see what happened with Cisse) so we can't really say whether the time was wasted or not.

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Teasy

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Let's say Pardew's been assured all summer that Bent is a legitimate target. He's available cheaply, wants out of his current club and has worked with Pardew before. Pardew knows the funds are there based on bids for other players. Pardew prepares for the season based on having Bent to choose from up front, possibly contemplating playing 4-4-2 or at the least dreaming of proven goalscoring cover up front (the horror!). Training perhaps involves getting wide and creating chances for two out and out goalscorers. Crossing, balls in behind. Then - over a month after it became known publicly that the player was a target and after Pardew has been quoted on multiple occasions saying that he wants him - after half of preseason had been played and with just over two weeks before the start of the season it turns out we actually aren't prepared to pay more than £2m for a 29 year old international player with two years left on his contract, and to boot we won't come close to our competitors on his wages.

 

If that's not wasting valuable time then I don't know what is.

 

 

Say what you want about Pardew, but Dave's post is spot on. He's ONCE AGAIN been fucked over in the summer by Ashley after whatever work he and Carr have done to line up targets and try to prepare for the season.

 

What if they bring in Remy and Gomis then?  Are you or Dave going to claim that any preparation Pardews been doing will be so specific to Bent alone that it'll be wasted on them?

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Unbelievable

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Let's say Pardew's been assured all summer that Bent is a legitimate target. He's available cheaply, wants out of his current club and has worked with Pardew before. Pardew knows the funds are there based on bids for other players. Pardew prepares for the season based on having Bent to choose from up front, possibly contemplating playing 4-4-2 or at the least dreaming of proven goalscoring cover up front (the horror!). Training perhaps involves getting wide and creating chances for two out and out goalscorers. Crossing, balls in behind. Then - over a month after it became known publicly that the player was a target and after Pardew has been quoted on multiple occasions saying that he wants him - after half of preseason had been played and with just over two weeks before the start of the season it turns out we actually aren't prepared to pay more than £2m for a 29 year old international player with two years left on his contract, and to boot we won't come close to our competitors on his wages.

 

If that's not wasting valuable time then I don't know what is.

 

 

Well it depends doesn't it? We don't know what Pardew was or wasn't told about how legitimate a target Bent was. You've just made that bit up.

 

We also don't know what else was happening at the same time (looking at Gomis, Remy, possibly others for example... waiting to see what happened with Cisse) so we can't really say whether the time was wasted or not.

 

The season starts in less than a fortnight and we haven't brought anyone in. I'd say it's safe to assume we've waisted time like, unless your contention is getting people in isn't massively important?

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Quite a few clubs got a bit of their business done before they had players back for pre-season.  The fact we can't get business done even before the season starts shows what a shambles our board are for getting deals done.  It was only when relegation was a genuine threat that they got their arse's into gear.

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Let's say Pardew's been assured all summer that Bent is a legitimate target. He's available cheaply, wants out of his current club and has worked with Pardew before. Pardew knows the funds are there based on bids for other players. Pardew prepares for the season based on having Bent to choose from up front, possibly contemplating playing 4-4-2 or at the least dreaming of proven goalscoring cover up front (the horror!). Training perhaps involves getting wide and creating chances for two out and out goalscorers. Crossing, balls in behind. Then - over a month after it became known publicly that the player was a target and after Pardew has been quoted on multiple occasions saying that he wants him - after half of preseason had been played and with just over two weeks before the start of the season it turns out we actually aren't prepared to pay more than £2m for a 29 year old international player with two years left on his contract, and to boot we won't come close to our competitors on his wages.

 

If that's not wasting valuable time then I don't know what is.

 

 

Say what you want about Pardew, but Dave's post is spot on. He's ONCE AGAIN been f***ed over in the summer by Ashley after whatever work he and Carr have done to line up targets and try to prepare for the season.

 

What if they bring in Remy and Gomis then?  Are you or Dave going to claim that any preparation Pardews been doing will be so specific to Bent alone that it'll be wasted on them?

 

Pardew/Carr identified needs & targets, and its the dealmakers jobs to get them done. Whatever preparation he does or doesn't do is up to him, but if he's being told he's getting players in and we're weeks away from the beginning of the season and we have none/not brought in players they've asked for how can he not be f***ed over? 

 

I'm merely saying he's being set up to fail - preparation, transfer targets, whatever.

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Everything hinges on the Gomis deal. If the Lyon president blinks first (which he probably will) and Gomis ends up here before the start of the season, no one will give a toss about Bent. But the derisory valuation shows that he was only ever a last resort for us anyway, except maybe in Pardew's eyes.

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Interpolic

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Its quite obvious he was a fallback option if the whole Cisse v Wonga thing wasn't sorted out.

 

Not bothered at all, now i will be if don't sign Remy and Gomis but i'm sure we could find someone more suited than Bent in any case.

 

Nah, that's not quite obvious whatsoever.

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ExiledGeordie

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We can't even get the ball to Cisse so how would we get the ball to someone who is even less mobile and involved in play than Cisse?

 

Who's less mobile than Cisse, btw? Bent?

 

Well I meant in terms of relying on service. Sure Cisse is guilty of missing chances but he can atleast grab something out of nothing. Bent relies totally on service into the box which currently we don't provide whatsoever (speaking hypothetically if we were to sign him which currently looks dead in the water)

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Ishmael

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Seeing Bony play the limited number 9 role and score twice, looking really dangerous in the 6 yard box (even though it was against a Sunday league side), has appeased me somewhat about the likes of Bent.

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I'd rather have Lovenkrands back than Bent.

 

:lol: Jokes, bro.

 

Hey, he puts in a good shift. Plays consistently in any role you put him in. Can play with anyone. Doesn't need to be in a lone striker role to be effective.

 

Wait, you were serious? :lol:

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Interpolic

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I'd rather have Lovenkrands back than Bent.

 

:lol: Jokes, bro.

 

Hey, he puts in a good shift. Plays consistently in any role you put him in. Can play with anyone. Doesn't need to be in a lone striker role to be effective.

 

:lol: He was admittedly excellent in every position (and every game) he played in for us, but I dunno mate, I just prefer Darren Bent. :lol:

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Teasy

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"While on face value from last season the Lyon forward may have seemed to be the right target, a look further back into the finishing figures suggests Gomis is not the man for the job of restoring success at St. James' Park."

 

This ignores the idea that players can improve.  For his last two seasons his goal scoring has been quite consistent at 1 in 2 starts or slightly better.

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