Kimbo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I've never been in favour of a move for Bent, but anyone on here could have told them that it would take around £6m and wages of around 60k to get him. If this is true then it's not that we're tight it's that we're playing silly c***s, pretending to be active in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Personally think Lamberts treatment of Bent is terrible, and not warranted as Bent hasn't been a trouble maker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'd be worried had we paid £6m and paid near enough his current wages. I'm sure the same people who are complaining about the offer and the lack of signings would have been calling this a shit move for us a few months down the line when we can't get bent and Cisse to work together or Pardew just generally struggling to get anything out of him at all. Then you'd have an ageing player well past his best, unmotivated sitting on a fat contract seeing his days out till retirement restricting us from buying the kind of player we should in the first place. For me It's like missing out on Kone, literally 1 day after he moved everyone forgot about him, this should be the same and would be had we got someone in, we haven't but we will IMO and when that happens we will all be glad we missed out on Darren fucking bent and brought in some quality we can all get behind now and in the future. Fair enough, but that means we should never have been in for him in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'd be worried had we paid £6m and paid near enough his current wages. I'm sure the same people who are complaining about the offer and the lack of signings would have been calling this a s*** move for us a few months down the line when we can't get bent and Cisse to work together or Pardew just generally struggling to get anything out of him at all. Then you'd have an ageing player well past his best, unmotivated sitting on a fat contract seeing his days out till retirement restricting us from buying the kind of player we should in the first place. For me It's like missing out on Kone, literally 1 day after he moved everyone forgot about him, this should be the same and would be had we got someone in, we haven't but we will IMO and when that happens we will all be glad we missed out on Darren f***ing bent and brought in some quality we can all get behind now and in the future. For me, its nothing to do with the actual player. It's that we've pissed about for a month or two pretending to go after this player then made a bid that was never going to be accepted and a wage offer that the player would never accept. The actual player is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What have they done to Bent exactly, drop him and not give him a game because he doesn't fit into their plans? What's wrong with that or am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What have they done to Bent exactly, drop him and not give him a game because he doesn't fit into their plans? What's wrong with that or am I missing something? sent him off to train with the kids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'd be worried had we paid £6m and paid near enough his current wages. I'm sure the same people who are complaining about the offer and the lack of signings would have been calling this a shit move for us a few months down the line when we can't get bent and Cisse to work together or Pardew just generally struggling to get anything out of him at all. Then you'd have an ageing player well past his best, unmotivated sitting on a fat contract seeing his days out till retirement restricting us from buying the kind of player we should in the first place. For me It's like missing out on Kone, literally 1 day after he moved everyone forgot about him, this should be the same and would be had we got someone in, we haven't but we will IMO and when that happens we will all be glad we missed out on Darren fucking bent and brought in some quality we can all get behind now and in the future. Fair enough, but that means we should never have been in for him in the first place. For me: We just don't rate him and he was a contingency plan should Cisse leave. If we get Gomis or Remy in loan or transfer we've done the right thing with bent IMO. The interest was never strong, we wanted him in case Cisse fucked off and with Cisse now staying we've low balled them just in case they do get desperate. We'd take him for that offer I'm sure, and if Cisse didn't resolve his issues, £5m ish bids plus a respectable wage would be being talked about, had Cisse gone the other way and handed in a transfer request we'd be matching fulhams supposed offer. It's all down to that situation, it's worked in our favour Cisse staying, we just don't need him any more. Gomis & Remy are our main targets and offer a different game to bent which should strike up better with Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'd be worried had we paid £6m and paid near enough his current wages. I'm sure the same people who are complaining about the offer and the lack of signings would have been calling this a s*** move for us a few months down the line when we can't get bent and Cisse to work together or Pardew just generally struggling to get anything out of him at all. Then you'd have an ageing player well past his best, unmotivated sitting on a fat contract seeing his days out till retirement restricting us from buying the kind of player we should in the first place. For me It's like missing out on Kone, literally 1 day after he moved everyone forgot about him, this should be the same and would be had we got someone in, we haven't but we will IMO and when that happens we will all be glad we missed out on Darren f***ing bent and brought in some quality we can all get behind now and in the future. For me, its nothing to do with the actual player. It's that we've pissed about for a month or two pretending to go after this player then made a bid that was never going to be accepted and a wage offer that the player would never accept. The actual player is irrelevant. See above, the small bid is nothing more than having a look to see what the situation is, and say gomis and Remy deals fall apart and bent is still around the offer would start rising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 £2m we bid really? nothing to do with Luke Edwards (sore ass i got banned from st james) stirring up shit as usual? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Can't say I'm bothered even if we did bid too low. Although strange we bothered to bid at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Thank fuck for that, leave him well alone please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 £2m we bid really? nothing to do with Luke Edwards (sore ass i got banned from st james) stirring up shit as usual? They're all reporting it, not just him. And by all accounts we didn't even bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Can't say I am not a bit relieved. As welcome as his goalscoring record would be, I shudder to think how we would have accommodated him in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 £2m we bid really? nothing to do with Luke Edwards (sore ass i got banned from st james) stirring up s*** as usual? They're all reporting it, not just him. And by all accounts we didn't even bid. The source must had come quite close from Edwards ass to begin with I can guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 £2m we bid really? nothing to do with Luke Edwards (sore ass i got banned from st james) stirring up s*** as usual? They're all reporting it, not just him. And by all accounts we didn't even bid. The source must had come quite close from Edwards ass to begin with I can guess. Would it change your opinion to know that George Caulkin reported it first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What have they done to Bent exactly, drop him and not give him a game because he doesn't fit into their plans? What's wrong with that or am I missing something? sent him off to train with the kids For no reason? What's Brummie's take on it all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Beyond me how people can still pour scorn on negative newspaper stories about NUFC. I made the same mistake for a long time when Keegan was here. I've since learned the hard way that it's nearly always true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What have they done to Bent exactly, drop him and not give him a game because he doesn't fit into their plans? What's wrong with that or am I missing something? sent him off to train with the kids For no reason? What's Brummie's take on it all? He has said on this thread quite a few pages ago, give me a sec. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Newcastle, however, were hoping to sign Bent for less than the £4m bid that Fulham have already had rejected in one of two offers submitted by the west London club. Genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Will be more to it that that, ofc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Thank god. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What have they done to Bent exactly, drop him and not give him a game because he doesn't fit into their plans? What's wrong with that or am I missing something? sent him off to train with the kids For no reason? What's Brummie's take on it all? Pages 3 and 4 of this thread Col you'll see what i mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The image of Joe fucking Kinnear sitting in a Villa boardroom saying something along the lines of: "Look lads, we are very interested in Derrick Bent, but we don't really value him at more than two million. We will not be making an offer at this time, because there's plenty of time left in the window, but keep us in the loop until deadline day so we can try and trash out a deal then. 'kay, thanks!" Ashley's penny pinching combined with Kinnear's negotiation skills, we're onto a winner here lads! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 £2m we bid really? nothing to do with Luke Edwards (sore ass i got banned from st james) stirring up s*** as usual? They're all reporting it, not just him. And by all accounts we didn't even bid. The source must had come quite close from Edwards ass to begin with I can guess. Would it change your opinion to know that George Caulkin reported it first? No, theyre both mates, I know who caulkin been speaking to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Whenever it occurs to me that JFK is actually in a job at NUFC a little bit of me dies inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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