Guest HTT II Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: I would. He's versatile, loyal and reliable, and will always give his best. A more than worthy squad player. I'd obviously hope we didn't rely on him too much, but I'd be more than happy to see him come on [either LB or as a third CB] for the last 10mins to secure a 2-0 win. I’d rather give Lewis a chance and ideally sign a player for that position who will be fit and available to play, his injury record is piss poor and we need to be letting players like him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, xLiaaamx said: Howe wants to give him a new deal. Sigh. At a non Ashley NUFC that's criminal imo. Half a season at best every year and we're going to extend his stay. Where's the room for new players if we keep all the current squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: I’d rather give Lewis a chance and ideally sign a player for that position who will be fit and available to play, his injury record is piss poor and we need to be letting players like him go. So would I, but Lewis is himself returning from injury and we want to learn from the error of keeping a tiring LB on the pitch in the last 10mins of a game. I see no need to hurry his departure. For me, the benefit of playing 3CBs is to allow your WBs to attack, Dummett is the ideal [ not perfect] LCB in that system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Should be pay as you play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Should be pay as you play. Only way I’d keep him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) I think you're being harsh. He's never let the club down. I'd happily pay him 40k a week to be there when needed. Edit: Not in FM though. He's the first useless bastard out the door. Edited January 18, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Dummett's alright; he's always been alright. No gripes at all in him getting an extension. At the weekend he instantly reminded everyone that (depressingly, I know) he's currently our best option in that position, but hopefully in the future he'll be backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The issue is his horrendous injury record with offering new contact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 His injury record is horrific like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, neesy111 said: The issue is his horrendous injury record with offering new contact. Definitely. But this is where squad management comes into play. Wrap him in cotton wool, we will need him at many times over the next 2-3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Dummett's alright; he's always been alright. No gripes at all in him getting an extension. At the weekend he instantly reminded everyone that (depressingly, I know) he's currently our best option in that position, but hopefully in the future he'll be backup. I'm still amazed that he's not still a youngster from the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, gjohnson said: I'm still amazed that he's not still a youngster from the reserves. 30?! I thought 28 or 29. Yeah I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to see out his career with the club. Maybe move into coaching. He's unlucky that his career has coincided with one of the worst periods in our history, and yes he's a reminder of the stench, but I believe he is reliable enough to cleanse himself in the next 2-3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I think people are missing the crux of my biggest issue here. No one is going to buy anyone from our squad. If we don't let Longstaff and Dummett expire, we're going to have no room to add anyone to the squad and be stuck with the same stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 He's lucky that his career coincided with one of the worst periods in our history IMO, otherwise he would have been sold to a Burnley long ago Sadly we are still buying first team players from the likes of Burnley, rather than shipping our unwanted players off to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Sean said: He's lucky that his career coincided with one of the worst periods in our history IMO, otherwise he would have been sold to a Burnley long ago Sadly we are still buying first team players from the likes of Burnley, rather than shipping our unwanted players off to them. In the good old days, he'd have been a David Beharell at best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2024 till Hendrick expires for example 2026 for Hayden ffs. We're absolutely lumbered with deadwood that we won't be able to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: I think people are missing the crux of my biggest issue here. No one is going to buy anyone from our squad. If we don't let Longstaff and Dummett expire, we're going to have no room to add anyone to the squad and be stuck with the same stuff. Hendrick, Hayden, Krafth, Gillespie, Clark, Gayle. 6 players out. Trippier, Wood, 2 new CBs, New CM, New wide forward. 6 players in. The rest can be U21s. And we can look at getting rid of Ritchie, Schar, Darlow, Woodman, Shelvey, Fraser, Manquillo, Murphy, that's 8 off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: 2024 till Hendrick expires for example 2026 for Hayden ffs. We're absolutely lumbered with deadwood that we won't be able to move. Hayden will find a club, no problem. Just ditch Hendrick, what's it going to cost? 8 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) Worth a crack at centre half and take our chances with Ritchie/Krafth at full-back to shift Lascelles. Though that's the club, just when we sort the full-back postions there's consideration to put one centre-half to plug that hole. There's just no putting a team out that doesn't contain dreck. Like shifting a picture around the wall trying to cover up all the stains left us as if in a Brucey flat which metaphorically we kinda are. Edited January 18, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Always been average but getting into Andy Carroll territory now. We improved massively when he went off defensively and going forward. If he wasn’t an academy product he’d have left the club ages ago and been at some mid-table Championship club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 And today is why you don’t offer him a new contract! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Always been average but getting into Andy Carroll territory now. We improved massively when he went off defensively and going forward. If he wasn’t an academy product he’d have left the club ages ago and been at some mid-table Championship club. Not really, we’ve given new contracts to loads of bad players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 18/01/2022 at 15:07, gjohnson said: In the good old days, he'd have been a David Beharell at best Probably a Peter Ramage. Covered LB & CB for 2-3 years then released to a Championship club in his mid 20s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Always been average but getting into Andy Carroll territory now. We improved massively when he went off defensively and going forward. If he wasn’t an academy product he’d have left the club ages ago and been at some mid-table Championship club. There's a reason we're after a left-back. The lad is coming back after eons out, so I want to cut him some slack, but he's always just been a serviceable defensive fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 He's an alright squad player to have, he just came back from an injury so hopefully his performance will get better going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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