huss9 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 "did nowt wrong" rather than outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 He's just really limited. 10 years ago he would've been a serviceable starting fullback: he's positionally-aware and generally not prone to mistakes. But he lacks pace (despite him being the fastest man alive) and offers hardly anything going forward, two attributes which are essential for the modern fullback to thrive at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 His only real weakness is that he can't control or kick a football very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Need to fix what's in front of him before worrying about his ball playing limitations. Currently it's a second rate right footed striker being shoehorned into a left wing role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 His only real weakness is that he can't control or kick a football very well. And has shit awareness, and let's his man beat him to the ball most the time. He's league 2 player at best. Thought he was his usual levels of shitness yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Need to fix what's in front of him before worrying about his ball playing limitations. Currently it's a second rate right footed striker being shoehorned into a left wing role. True, but that doesn't make Dummett any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He's just really limited. 10 years ago he would've been a serviceable starting fullback: he's positionally-aware and generally not prone to mistakes. But he lacks pace (despite him being the fastest man alive) and offers hardly anything going forward, two attributes which are essential for the modern fullback to thrive at the top level. somehow he's always getting into these rankings because the fucker is sprinting like a banshee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Need to fix what's in front of him before worrying about his ball playing limitations. Currently it's a second rate right footed striker being shoehorned into a left wing role. True, but that doesn't make Dummett any better. Dummett's a poor footballer, and would never be good enough for a decent premier side. But he can defend well, and that's the most important thing first and foremost for a defender. I would say it's more important to replace Gouffran with a proper wide man in front of him for this season. I don't know what other options we have at left back if we want to swap out Dummett. I'm assuming Lazaar isn't considered sound enough defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He's just really limited. 10 years ago he would've been a serviceable starting fullback: he's positionally-aware and generally not prone to mistakes. But he lacks pace (despite him being the fastest man alive) and offers hardly anything going forward, two attributes which are essential for the modern fullback to thrive at the top level. I agree with most of the post but he genuinely doesn't lack pace, like. Far from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He's just really limited. 10 years ago he would've been a serviceable starting fullback: he's positionally-aware and generally not prone to mistakes. But he lacks pace (despite him being the fastest man alive) and offers hardly anything going forward, two attributes which are essential for the modern fullback to thrive at the top level. I agree with most of the post but he genuinely doesn't lack pace, like. Far from it. Just caught out of position alot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He's decently fast once he gets going it's just that he turns so slowly and has pretty poor acceleration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Go as far as to say he's very fast in a straight line, without the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Also its useless going forward as he can't control a ball at that speed. It's only good for recovering from mistakes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Amazing how one good game can make people forget how absolute trash he is most times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He's decently fast once he gets going it's just that he turns so slowly and has pretty poor acceleration. Think I've posted in here about this before but if not I'm sure he was recorded as in the top 5 fastest players in the PL last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Amazing how one good game can make people forget how absolute trash he is most times. He's had 2 good games in the last week, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Hes definitely not a bad defender at all, and happy to see him stay if we go up but not as first choice, we need someone who is comfortable on the ball and can at least offer SOMETHING going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He's an excellent defender, which is not suprising since he was supposed to be a centre back. He offers nothing going forward. It depends what you want from your full back. There are very few that can do both sides of the game, be careful what you wish for. Give me a defender who can defender over a defender with loads of pace and skill but is positionally all over the place. I understand that those aren't the only two options but players who can do both are incredibly hard to come by. Gouffran is a much bigger problem on that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Agreed. For me - Janmaat was our worst RB for some time. Conceded so many because of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Agreed. For me - Janmaat was our worst RB for some time. Conceded so many because of him Yeah, Janmaat is easily the worst fullback I've seen for us over the last 7-8 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He was also the most productive in attack but couldn't defend at all. For a relatively tall fullback - awful in the air. Didn't track runners. Often played people onside. I know he was injured but he's on the bench for Watford now. I thought he would be much better at Wing-Back but seemingly not. Think he's scored a goal and got an assist in only 7 starts - 12 or so total. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He was also the most productive in attack but couldn't defend at all. For a relatively tall fullback - awful in the air. Didn't track runners. Often played people onside. I know he was injured but he's on the bench for Watford now. I thought he would be much better at Wing-Back but seemingly not. They played CB when they lost 6-1 at anfield earlier this season, foolish mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 He's dependable. He'll keep them out, then pass it backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 His lack of ability going forward wouldn't be such an issue in many teams but given Rafa's system I think we need a LB who can actually do something with the ball. Rafa loves his inverted wingers meaning any real width in our attack has to come from the full-backs. If we were to sign a left footed, pacy winger and actually play him on the left then I'd have no real issue with Dummett staying in the team. That seems unlikely though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 His lack of ability going forward wouldn't be such an issue in many teams but given Rafa's system I think we need a LB who can actually do something with the ball. Rafa loves his inverted wingers meaning any real width in our attack has to come from the full-backs. If we were to sign a left footed, pacy winger and actually play him on the left then I'd have no real issue with Dummett staying in the team. That seems unlikely though. You sure? Never recall Valencia or Liverpool having roving fullbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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