Paully Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I think he's been solid defensively but he's literally hopeless when in possession! There was an incident yesterday when we had a corner which was cleared and it went to Dummett who simply had to head it or chest and pass it back to Atsu who he was naturally facing and who was in yards of space but instead he tried to head it back in the box with a sideways header which went nowhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Darlow clearly hasn't given Dummett a shout there. Just like he didn't when Clark og'd against QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Jesus, he doesn't have to do anything in posession, and now he doesn't even have to be aware of what's going on around him either. Man's got the easiest job in football. Just run and punt it abit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/10782351/newcastles-calamitous-mix-up He's literally sprinting with his eyes fully on the ball so he can judge the drop, why should he have to be aware of his keeper in this situation? Just watch the clip again, he has very little time to check what's going on but will reasonably expect his goalkeeper to be prepared in the box to receive the nod back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/10782351/newcastles-calamitous-mix-up He's literally sprinting with his eyes fully on the ball so he can judge the drop, why should he have to be aware of his keeper in this situation? Just watch the clip again, he has very little time to check what's going on but will reasonably expect his goalkeeper to be prepared in the box to receive the nod back. If Dummett headed it towards goal I'd agree it would be his fault like, but he's heading it out for a corner at worst in his mind. He cannot plan for Darlow inexplicably handing the ball right into Cotterill's path. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/10782351/newcastles-calamitous-mix-up He's literally sprinting with his eyes fully on the ball so he can judge the drop, why should he have to be aware of his keeper in this situation? Just watch the clip again, he has very little time to check what's going on but will reasonably expect his goalkeeper to be prepared in the box to receive the nod back. He didn't have to keep his eyes glued to the ball though. That's poor and makes him unaware of his surroundings. Plenty of opportunity to have a glance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Darlow is much more at fault for the goal. There is no reason why he should be in that position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Darlow is much more at fault for the goal. There is no reason why he should be in that position Agreed, absolutely no idea why Darlow has even felt the need to come for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I'm pretty sure he'd have just had a look if he could like, he's not a complete moron. I think it's pretty safe to assume that checking the position of his keeper and maintaining a full awareness of the flight of the ball in that situation just wasn't as easy as it is to imagine it should be. He seemed happy to concede a corner if Darlow wasn't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Darlow definitely shouldn't have come out. Dummett however in that position surely has to have a look where the keeper is even if Darlow doesn't go walkabout? He was 5 yards ahead of their striker and had at least 2-3 seconds to have a look at the picture around him. He didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Both to blame, it's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 100% Darlow's fault, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Both to blame, it's as simple as that. Not really. That implies they're both equally to blame. Dummett is maybe 5% to blame for the goal while Darlow is the other 95% at fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Darlow definitely shouldn't have come out. Dummett however in that position surely has to have a look where the keeper is even if Darlow doesn't go walkabout? He was 5 yards ahead of their striker and had at least 2-3 seconds to have a look at the picture around him. He didn't. I think he's less worried about their player and more concerned with making sure he knows where the ball is though. It's a literal example of not taking your eye off the ball, he even has to adjust at the last second to make sure he makes contact. His main concern is that he heads the ball out of danger which he would have done had it not been for Darlow. Anyway I just don't think it's easy to get on the end of that ball while running at full pelt while also looking about. EDIT: At the end of the day if we blame Dummett for that then we're saying what he did was incorrect and discouraging him from doing it again, when 999 times out of 1000 it's absolutely the correct line of play and our keeper claims the ball with ease/at worst watches it out for a corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Dummett probably ought to have a look, but I think it would be harsh to punish him for assuming Darlow wouldn't be in a fucking stupid position for no good reason. Horrible goalkeeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 People in here desperate for Dummett to be at fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Both Dummett and Darlow were to blame for the goal. Darlow for his dreadful positioning, lack of communication and then attempt to retrieve the situation. Dummett for attempting a ridiculous diving header back to the goalkeeper; where he could have stayed on his feet or let the ball run or anything else other than what he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 That ball should never be going out for a corner in any situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 If Darlow is where he should be it is a perfectly good, well weighted header back to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 If you're going to pass the ball to a team mate then it might be a good idea to have a look and not just assume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 The TV feed isn't good enough to see if he had a look or not on my laptop but if he looks, he sees Darlow in a normal position before he runs out like a fucking lunatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 'Ridiculous diving header' ffs. Stifler fucking ruined this place when he invited all his friends, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 The TV feed isn't good enough to see if he had a look or not on my laptop but if he looks, he sees Darlow in a normal position before he runs out like a fucking lunatic. Just had a look, he doesnt look at Darlow once from when he's in frame on the footage. He's running looking up and behind him at the ball all the way from the edge of the centre circle until he heads it (a good 20+ yards ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 The TV feed isn't good enough to see if he had a look or not on my laptop but if he looks, he sees Darlow in a normal position before he runs out like a f***ing lunatic. Just had a look, he doesnt look at Darlow once from when he's in frame on the footage. He's running looking up and behind him at the ball all the way from the edge of the centre circle until he heads it (a good 20+ yards ) You can look by moving your eyes you know, not your entire head. Impossible to tell on my crap internet here. Either way, at this level passes are made all the time without looking, if Darlow is where he should be it's no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 If Dummett has headed it back and Darlow is where he shouldn't be then it's Darlow's fault. If Darlow called then for me it would be Dummett's fault. I'm guessing the former but from Darlow's reaction he looks fuming with Dummett so maybe he did call. Either way is a ridiculous goal to give away again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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