Jesse Pinkman Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 It'll probably be Ross Kemp or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 To save costs it will probably be Pardew in a wig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Bet's on it being one of Ashley/Pardew's cronies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I thought all of the people foolish enough to support Pardle had been purged Didn't we have our own "Night of the long knives" a while back? we clearly didn't do a good job. Jokes aside, everyone is of course entitled to there view and it's really tiring breaking down Pardles shortcomings so I'll leave it to you No need, AP has got this How have i come out of this as a Pardew lover Him being awful is a given surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I thought all of the people foolish enough to support Pardle had been purged Didn't we have our own "Night of the long knives" a while back? we clearly didn't do a good job. Jokes aside, everyone is of course entitled to there view and it's really tiring breaking down Pardles shortcomings so I'll leave it to you No need, AP has got this How have i come out of this as a Pardew lover Him being awful is a given surely. Blaming things such as the atmosphere when it's actually been a lot kinder than it should have been given the form over the last 18 months makes you look suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Be someone like Lawrie Sanchez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 @MsiDouglas Quick plug for tomorrow: #nufc set to appoint new Academy coach. Details in Journal and online from 8.30.... http://files.stv.tv/imagebase/189/623x349/189804-newcastle-united-director-of-football-joe-kinnear.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Academy_Bus_1717.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Blaming things such as the atmosphere when it's actually been a lot kinder than it should have been given the form over the last 18 months makes you look suspect. And atmosphere around a football club is created only inside a stadium on matchday? Lets move on, no ones disagreeing its an argument over wording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Bet's on it being one of Ashley/Pardew's cronies? Did someone say new contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 @MsiDouglas Quick plug for tomorrow: #nufc set to appoint new Academy coach. Details in Journal and online from 8.30.... That'll be why we can't afford any new players then. Knowing us it will be Gary Glitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 @MsiDouglas Quick plug for tomorrow: #nufc set to appoint new Academy coach. Details in Journal and online from 8.30.... http://files.stv.tv/imagebase/189/623x349/189804-newcastle-united-director-of-football-joe-kinnear.jpg jesus christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 @MsiDouglas Quick plug for tomorrow: #nufc set to appoint new Academy coach. Details in Journal and online from 8.30.... That'll be why we can't afford any new players then. Knowing us it will be Gary Glitter. Or Gerry Mccain, Though that would at least explain why so many of them would go missing before they get into the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Newcastle United's hopes of signing Alexandre Lacazette and Clement Grenier could be in danger: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-uniteds-hopes-signing-lacazette-7348995? Quelle surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We won't sign them because we have no interest in football. We have interest in making money and we won't make much (if any) profit on them. Pointless even considering them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We won't sign them because we have no interest in football. We have interest in making money and we won't make much (if any) profit on them. Pointless even considering them. i'd say that 10m is probably our top line for someone we consider one of our highest regarded targets in the grand scheme of things how many players bought for 10m or more go on to be worth considerably more vs. the amount that end up at a similar or lower value? this is clearly how the club are approaching every transfer, especially the "top end" ones they're looking at i for one don't think they're not looking to sign anyone for the first team, i think they're sitting with some spreadsheet and won't go above whatever value they've assigned (which invariably never seems to be >10m does it?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I believe they factor wages and fees into their projections. For example a £5m player with £6m over 3 years wages and a £1m agents fee would need to be sold on after those 3 years for £12m for us to be interested in the deal. The same player bought for £15m gives a required sell on fee of about £22m. It's not unlikely that a £5m player could be sold on for £12m if he does well over a 3 year period but not many players go for north of £20m from clubs of our standing. We'd be a much better football team but unfortunately the ROI for this type of player doesn't fit our business model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I believe they factor wages and fees into their projections. For example a £5m player with £6m over 3 years wages and a £1m agents fee would need to be sold on after those 3 years for £12m for us to be interested in the deal. The same player bought for £15m gives a required sell on fee of about £22m. It's not unlikely that a £5m player could be sold on for £12m if he does well over a 3 year period but not many players go for north of £20m from clubs of our standing. We'd be a much better football team but unfortunately the ROI for this type of player doesn't fit our business model. wow, that would be an utterly insane way to look at transfers in football like, jesus hope that's not true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm sure Llambias came out and said at a fans meeting or in an interview that wages are counted into transfer fees? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 i assumed that meant they just counted it in the overall value of the deal rather than accounting for the wages of a player never to actually be paid by the club but from a future transfer fee the idea that this might be how they're approaching transfers has just broke me i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 i assumed that meant they just counted it in the overall value of the deal rather than accounting for the wages of a player never to actually be paid by the club but from a future transfer fee the idea that this might be how they're approaching transfers has just broke me i think I'm sure it's wages across the whole deal. It's ridiculous I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We won't sign them because we have no interest in football. We have interest in making money and we won't make much (if any) profit on them. Pointless even considering them. i'd say that 10m is probably our top line for someone we consider one of our highest regarded targets in the grand scheme of things how many players bought for 10m or more go on to be worth considerably more vs. the amount that end up at a similar or lower value? this is clearly how the club are approaching every transfer, especially the "top end" ones they're looking at i for one don't think they're not looking to sign anyone for the first team, i think they're sitting with some spreadsheet and won't go above whatever value they've assigned (which invariably never seems to be >10m does it?) We've paid £10m plus only 4 times ever...how depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I think we'll sign someone today. As in, hit them over the head with a sign? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I believe they factor wages and fees into their projections. For example a £5m player with £6m over 3 years wages and a £1m agents fee would need to be sold on after those 3 years for £12m for us to be interested in the deal. The same player bought for £15m gives a required sell on fee of about £22m. It's not unlikely that a £5m player could be sold on for £12m if he does well over a 3 year period but not many players go for north of £20m from clubs of our standing. We'd be a much better football team but unfortunately the ROI for this type of player doesn't fit our business model. wow, that would be an utterly insane way to look at transfers in football like, jesus hope that's not true There's no basis in fact behind that, it's just what I suspect is the way we approach things from looking at our transfer dealings. Could be total bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I don't think there's much wrong with that model as such but you have to be flexible sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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