Guest palnese Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Oh well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think even younger and more informed supporters will have rarely watched the imports from Belgium and Holland play often. I've seen Thauvin many times over a few years, but Mitrovic and Wijnaldum I only really know through media coverage, highlight videos, and the occasional match on a big stage. Just watching a player's team a few times doesn't mean you have a good idea of who he is either. I've taken to supporting DR Congo and watched all of their matches in the ACN, but I couldn't tell you much about Mbemba as I wasn't watching with an eye for him particularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 palnese has been having digs at the forum for a good few months now for some reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Knew fuck all about Mbemba and Mitrovic tbh, but in any case all 4 players are a lot more proven than majority of the squad tbh. All of them have CL(Think Wijnaldum does anyway?) and international experience, you don't need to watch them to know that anyway and I really dislike the idea that if you haven't played in England you are unproven. I think they are plenty proven personally, the quality of the signing isn't an issue there just hasn't been enough of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 One of my mates from work, who has had a season ticket at various points in time, went to the 2-2 in the San Siro. When chatting to another mate in the office about the game years later, one comment he made was "Was Shearer playing in that game?" Some posters on here would be staggered by the knowledge, or lack of it, of the club by people who go regularly. That's their own club as well, not one in Belgium or Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've watched Anderlecht, PSV and Marseille several times in the last 12 months when I've had money on them and I couldn't have picked any of the players out of a line up. The idea that 90% of the supporters in SJP on an average matchday could do so is absolutely laughable. Frankly I'd be amazed if 5% could. Even 5% is way too high tbh. I'd be amazed if 1% could. No chance man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Just watching a player's team a few times doesn't mean you have a good idea of who he is either. I've taken to supporting DR Congo and watched all of their matches in the ACN, but I couldn't tell you much about Mbemba as I wasn't watching with an eye for him particularly. You generally only notice the best attacking players when watching obscure teams unless you are really paying attention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Just watching a player's team a few times doesn't mean you have a good idea of who he is either. I've taken to supporting DR Congo and watched all of their matches in the ACN, but I couldn't tell you much about Mbemba as I wasn't watching with an eye for him particularly. You generally only notice the best attacking players when watching obscure teams unless you are really paying attention I really can't judge a players ability unless I have some sort of an emotional investment to his team. Even then I'm also absolutely useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is it a problem to know about players when they are linked with your / other clubs? Also does it matter when you lash on to a rumor and then end up watching said player? Curious. Most of the time I just watch the sport on random channels and don't follow anyone. Many other times I find out about players via video games (shocker). But why does it honestly matter? Or does it not? Honestly curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I've seen Thauvin and Wijnaldum before, not Mbemba/Mitrovic though (seem highly rated) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is it a problem to know about players when they are linked with your / other clubs? Also does it matter when you lash on to a rumor and then end up watching said player? Curious. Most of the time I just watch the sport on random channels and don't follow anyone. Many other times I find out about players via video games (shocker). But why does it honestly matter? Or does it not? Honestly curious. There are a crop of 'world' players which a high proportion of footy fans have heard of, these would sit alongside players from our own league, as known and exciting (potentially) 'bandstand' signings. The first lot aren't going to come, unless they are towards the end of their career or still have something to prove before they will guarantee their place in a champions league regular. The second lot, unfortunately, in EPL are notoriously overpriced. I share some of the views about most of our crop being a gamble. Or more of a gamble than we'd want, because you're always taking a chance bringing a player in. But what choice do we have, I mean realistic choice? Getting a crop of £10m plus players (and some exciting young prospects too) is about the best we could hope for. Will they all become world beaters? Doubt it (though at present can't see us holding on to Wi-aye-man unless we have a good one, and show promise for further improvement: he is a class act) but we are in there, searching and competing for young talent. It feels good, and even though mid table mediocrity is the likely endpoint, the journey looks like it could be fun; and to me most of us seem more excited about this season than any recent season I can recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Anecdotal evidence it may be, but when I had a season ticket I was constantly surprised by how little notice the people sat around me took in what went on outside of a Saturday afternoon at SJP. Many a time people didn't even know why certain players weren't present (they'd been injured all week, or were suspended, or were about to leave etc). Shitloads of our fans seem to get their information purely from the Chronicle or a red top daily newspaper. Sorry but they'll know f*** all about players from Holland, Belgium or France and don't pretend to. I spend far too much time on here and watch a reasonably high amount of football on TV and I don't know anything about the players we've signed. The vast majority of matchgoing fans are far simpler than the world football experts you seem to think they are. Superb and spot on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 http://www.turkish-football.com/galatasaray-set-to-make-e5m-bid-for-newcastle-striker-cisse/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Eh? Quite a few on here thrive on negativity. We could win the league and some would still moan. Colback's fault he got sent off there. As this is N-O I'm pretty sure this is serious. Bolasie has f*** all end product. People keep forgetting that hugely significant fact. Well, 6 assists in the league. It's a decent amount, nowhere near deserving of the praise he's getting Such a N-O post. Please tell me those last couple of comments are in jest! Not sure why they would be, Mclaren shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near this job to he honest. Beside the point though, giving him stick when we're 0 games into the season is beyond pathetic. Well, it's N-O, what did you expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I'd seen Wijnaldum, Thauvin play and remembered Mitrovic scoring against Arsenal. Had never heard of Mbemba or Toney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Anecdotal evidence it may be, but when I had a season ticket I was constantly surprised by how little notice the people sat around me took in what went on outside of a Saturday afternoon at SJP. Many a time people didn't even know why certain players weren't present (they'd been injured all week, or were suspended, or were about to leave etc). Shitloads of our fans seem to get their information purely from the Chronicle or a red top daily newspaper. Sorry but they'll know f*** all about players from Holland, Belgium or France and don't pretend to. I spend far too much time on here and watch a reasonably high amount of football on TV and I don't know anything about the players we've signed. The vast majority of matchgoing fans are far simpler than the world football experts you seem to think they are. Superb and spot on! I was surprised by how little attention most people pay at the match. Myself included at times to be honest. Aside from the fact my seat was in the front row and useless for understanding what's happening tactically during the game, most of those around me were that drunk they'd be hard pressed to name goal scorers five minutes after full time. I once embarrassingly told the lads on our bus I had to record motd so I knew what had happened, they all recorded motd too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I'm hip as owt and I've seen nowt of them all bar Wijnaldum in the World Cup where he flew under the radar. You'd heard of Mitrovic and Thauvin? Aye but heard of and being able to form an opinion having a watched are totally different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Eh? Quite a few on here thrive on negativity. We could win the league and some would still moan. Colback's fault he got sent off there. As this is N-O I'm pretty sure this is serious. Bolasie has f*** all end product. People keep forgetting that hugely significant fact. Well, 6 assists in the league. It's a decent amount, nowhere near deserving of the praise he's getting Such a N-O post. Please tell me those last couple of comments are in jest! Not sure why they would be, Mclaren shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near this job to he honest. Beside the point though, giving him stick when we're 0 games into the season is beyond pathetic. Well, it's N-O, what did you expect? Kudos. Some love their negative agendas on here. I'm just sick of it all - the constant flow of negativity. I'm turning into one cynical bastard myself and I can't stand it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-united-finished-transfer-window-9911105 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Austin Must be the most boring "saga" in the history of football tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I don't get our pursuit of Austin at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 There must be interest in Cisse at a good price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 There must be interest in Cisse at a good price Would agree - they have wanted shot of him for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Still wouldn't be surprised to see Austin rock up, and Cisse slope off. Feel kinda strangely underwhelmed by both possibilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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