Collage Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 On the one hand I am convinced Wijnaldum will have better options than us, and on the other hand I think we can do better deals than him even in Holland. He's a good player but I'm not sure he is what we really need. We already have a number of attacking midfield players, whereas we are really light in the winger department. I can't see him being happy playing right wing for us long term. If memory serves this was exactly the reason he left Feyenoord for PSV a few seasons ago. Edit: what TRC said basically If it wasn't so unlike us to replace a player before selling, I'd be 100% convinced that this means Sissoko is off. As it is, I'm only about 95% certain of it. CM/AM really isn't where we should be looking at players tbh, we've already got De Jong, Marveaux and Cabella fighting for a spot there (Cabella only if we sign some wingers). We need CBs, wingers and strikers before we even start looking at CM/AM. Aye, Sissoko leaving is the only logical explanation, but I can't see us get much more for Sissoko than what Wijnaldum would cost us, so that would make it a sideways move in every way imaginable. But a potentially huge step up in the "heart" dept. Aye, we can't be having players who don't want to play for NUFC. If we get Wijnaldum instead, good riddance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 However much De Jong could be an absolute key player for us, it would be suicide to rely on him being fit all season. Wijnaldum would be a great signing...but only if it's followed up with a lot more of equal quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 On the one hand I am convinced Wijnaldum will have better options than us, and on the other hand I think we can do better deals than him even in Holland. He's a good player but I'm not sure he is what we really need. We already have a number of attacking midfield players, whereas we are really light in the winger department. I can't see him being happy playing right wing for us long term. If memory serves this was exactly the reason he left Feyenoord for PSV a few seasons ago. Edit: what TRC said basically If it wasn't so unlike us to replace a player before selling, I'd be 100% convinced that this means Sissoko is off. As it is, I'm only about 95% certain of it. CM/AM really isn't where we should be looking at players tbh, we've already got De Jong, Marveaux and Cabella fighting for a spot there (Cabella only if we sign some wingers). We need CBs, wingers and strikers before we even start looking at CM/AM. Aye, Sissoko leaving is the only logical explanation, but I can't see us get much more for Sissoko than what Wijnaldum would cost us, so that would make it a sideways move in every way imaginable. How would you rate Wijnaldum compared to Sissoko? Hmm, I would say about equal, but Wijnaldum is probably a bit more consistent. That said, he has not really been tested in a stronger competition than our Eredivisie and contrary to a lot of people I don't think he had a great World Cup, just a decent one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/psv/24244197/__Ook_Everton_wil_Wijnaldum__.html Everton linked too? We tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Yeah was already mentioned. Could be PSV pushing for an answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I hope we sign the guy, if not only to witness the full-scale meltdown that would ensue, here: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/wijnaldum.1094838/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Interesting if we sign him and keep Sissoko. What formation are they thinking about? If it's true that he doesn't wanna play on the wing, where the hell we fit them all? 4-6-0 with De Jong as a false nine? Sissoko and Wijnaldum behind him making runs, Tiote/Abeid as an anchorman and Cabella&Aarons on the wings? Or just stick Sissoko on the right? Cisse up top, SDJ and GW behind him? More likely we just sell Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 According to the Mail a deal has been agreed with PSV now up to Winegum to decide if he wants to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 OK, just keep cool and don't start a fucking thread about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 OK, just keep cool and don't start a fucking thread about him. Aye, it literally makes no difference at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Do NOT make a new thread (not that we'll get him) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Interesting if we sign him and keep Sissoko. What formation are they thinking about? If it's true that he doesn't wanna play on the wing, where the hell we fit them all? 4-6-0 with De Jong as a false nine? Sissoko and Wijnaldum behind him making runs, Tiote/Abeid as an anchorman and Cabella&Aarons on the wings? Or just stick Sissoko on the right? Cisse up top, SDJ and GW behind him? More likely we just sell Sissoko. Since when does where someone is going to play fit into our transfer strategy? FWIW Sissoko seems to have no issue playing wide I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Start a thread. I might do it, just for shits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Just like a new signing. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-uniteds-forgotten-man-shane-9607163 Kid from Northampton signs, and Shane's back. Ashley keeping his promises Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Start a thread. I might do it, just for s***s. Lifetime ban IMHO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Instant permaban if you start one, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Just like a new signing. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-uniteds-forgotten-man-shane-9607163 Kid from Northampton signs, and Shane's back. Ashley keeping his promises Toney or not Toney? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Shane Ferguson's return papering over the absence of any new players. Things are getting desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Don't know enough about Wijnaldum but a Dutch journalist (Michael Jongsma) seems to think that having a midfield that contains de Jong and Wijnaldum won't work as they both mainly offer a goalscoring threat but low on creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Instant permaban if you start one, please. Until there official confirmation anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We should use Shane for some weird experiments. See how massive we can get him, give him absolutely tonnes of steroids and tattoos. They'll be like "ah they are sending on a tricky winger" but actually we release a massive, rabid beast out just screaming at people off the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Instant permaban if you start one, please. Until there official confirmation anyway Mackems have two now, one that is 70 pages and one about Jordy Clasie being better than Greorginio Wijnaldum What a mess that forum is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Instant permaban if you start one, please. Until there official confirmation anyway Mackems have two now, one that is 70 pages and one about Jordy Clasie being better than Greorginio Wijnaldum What a mess that forum is! They have a new thread for every different person that mentions the same rumour, they would have 20000 new threads this summer if they were linked to half of what we have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We should use Shane for some weird experiments. See how massive we can get him, give him absolutely tonnes of steroids and tattoos. They'll be like "ah they are sending on a tricky winger" but actually we release a massive, rabid beast out just screaming at people off the ball. Give him the Steve Rogers treatment, might get him to 5ft7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Don't know enough about Wijnaldum but a Dutch journalist (Michael Jongsma) seems to think that having a midfield that contains de Jong and Wijnaldum won't work as they both mainly offer a goalscoring threat but low on creativity. I'm assuming they'll use Wijnaldum in a more box-to-box role, which makes me think Sissoko's off (unless they've realised we need a squad?!). McClaren prefers 4-3-3, doesn't he? Might be going for a mega attacking Sissoko-Wijnaldum-de Jong midfield 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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