Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The reactions to the appointment Reminds me of us last summer = Hope gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Imagine appointing a shit former Sunderland manager. Fucking mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Absolute Brucey levels of bizzare dinosaur appointments. Wtf are they playing at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Really surprised at how badly it's gone for him there. Seemed like a great appointment. Not all managers that have worked with elite clubs/players can adapt and overachiever with lower level clubs/players Villarreal and Malaga being absolute powerhouses before and after his arrival of course. Stick to turning people against Rafa though Aye, what complete shite He's probably past it but he was a very good manager at one point It was when Malaga had a huge cash injection from the middle east and was buying the likes of Van Nistelrooy. Not the first time Chequebook Pellegrini has had that luxury. He can’t even do it with a bucket load of money now. :lol: Was giggling reading this. Van Nistelrooy went there on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Really surprised at how badly it's gone for him there. Seemed like a great appointment. Not all managers that have worked with elite clubs/players can adapt and overachiever with lower level clubs/players Villarreal and Malaga being absolute powerhouses before and after his arrival of course. Stick to turning people against Rafa though Aye, what complete shite He's probably past it but he was a very good manager at one point It was when Malaga had a huge cash injection from the middle east and was buying the likes of Van Nistelrooy. Not the first time Chequebook Pellegrini has had that luxury. He can’t even do it with a bucket load of money now. :lol: Was giggling reading this. Van Nistelrooy went there on a free. I think you’ve missed the point he had a wealthy middle east owner behind him. Doubt Van Nistelrooy was on 5p wages either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Nah I haven't missed anything. Go look at income vs. expenditure. Pellegrini did a great job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes was average at Everton and a total failure every where else since. How on earth these guys manage to stay on the management merry go round just amazes me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes was good at Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Be class if West Ham gan doon like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes was good at Everton Very good. I hate when a manager doesn't do well at a certain club that people then feel the need to discredit their past success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Now let me be clear about what I mean by this because I think this could be prettily easily construed as me suggesting that the owners are asset strippers or uninterested leeches, and I don't think that's really true. I believe that David Sullivan and David Gold would like West Ham to be successful, and I can even allow myself to be convinced that as supporters they feel the highs and lows just as we do. But their primary driver is simple; in summer 2021 the club can be sold without any of the proceeds needing to be repaid to the public purse. Assuming that West Ham are still a Premier League club at that point and that $500m valuation holds, then Sullivan and Gold will be free to sell up and bank the kind of profit that one does not usually see when you flog an asset based in a leased building, constructed to last a fortnight. So while I accept there is a nice spot in the Venn diagram where the things we want overlap with the owners, we can stop kidding ourselves about the wider dream. We aren't going to see £100m plans for training facilities or substantial investment in a new scouting and analytics set up, or a tonne of money being thrown at the women's team, because these things just cost money and depress the amount of the money the owners will trouser in a sale. You don't stick long term expenditure projects on a balance sheet when you're preparing to sell up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 At least they might actually sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Pellegrini did a fine job at Malaga regardless of what he had to spend. Taking Malaga to 4th in La Liga and being unlucky to not reach the semi finals of the Champions League is an outstanding achievement. If you are a good manager which Pellegrini at the time was then its more likely you will get the chance to manage bigger clubs with lots of money to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The porn brothers are also a lot closer to death than Ashley, sadly. They’ll sell up soon enough *Unless it’s passed on to that dickhead son, of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 So while I accept there is a nice spot in the Venn diagram where the things we want overlap with the owners, we can stop kidding ourselves about the wider dream. I like that line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 At least they might actually sell. [emoji23] I'd snap your hands off for a guarantee that the club will only be soulless for another two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 18 month deal as well I think that's a compromise for both parties. Moyes said he didn't want to go back there on a temporary contract, and clearly West Ham don't fancy him as a long term appointment. West Ham have some decent players, a bit of organisation defensively should stabilise them until they can go for who they really want. Moyes gets a decent squad to work with for 18 months. Not a bad deal for either party really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 "Winning is what I do," said Moyes. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50950041 PFM's after watching The Irishman over Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 "Winning is what I do," said Moyes. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50950041 PFM's after watching The Irishman over Christmas. He's lost about a bajillions more than he's won since leaving Everton, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Confident interview Interested to see how it goes. If they get off to a good start, they'll be fine tbh. Rough start could be tricky for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Moyes reckons Gold and Sullivan “showed quite a lot of class” in asking him to come back to West Ham. Fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Confident interview Interested to see how it goes. If they get off to a good start, they'll be fine tbh. Rough start could be tricky for them. Based on that clip, he sounded confident but it was still full of shit quotes. 'out of certain managers, I have the highest win rate' (or something out along those lines.) Yeah, which certain managers are those? The crap ones? 'that's what I do, I win'. 'strong, good and attacking footballing team'. Yeah...? when? 'the owners though I was good enough to get another opportunity here' really? Why didn't they keep you on, then? Decent manager, but blowing his own trumpet far too much there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Managers are hired and sacked based on very short-term circumstances for the most part, the same logic could apply to Pellegrini. Why sack him now if they hired him before? He’s the same bloke. Silly to pretend there’s a strategy at work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Based on that clip, he sounded confident but it was still full of shit quotes. ‘out of certain managers, I have the highest win rate' (or something out along those lines.) Yeah, which certain managers are those? The crap ones? 'that's what I do, I win'. 'strong, good and attacking footballing team'. Yeah...? when? 'the owners though I was good enough to get another opportunity here' really? Why didn't they keep you on, then? Decent manager, but blowing his own trumpet far too much there. God Bruce type stuff. You’d think these managers would have the record for the biggest Real Madrid and Liverpool wins in Champions League history(Both 8 v 0) Or the biggest Real Madrid win in 60 years(10 v 2) Or be Real Madrid’s highest goal rate manager in the last 60 years(2.76 goals a game) Or have the record for the biggest goalscoring win in Chelsea's PL history(8 v 0) Or have the highest scoring team in the Premier League over a season outscoring Fergie. Yet Jeff Stelling says at least Newcastle now have an attacking manager in Bruce Didn’t know it was Bruce who had the elite attacking records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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