Dr.Spaceman Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Love the fact that they're stuck with someone they don't want and are seemingly being open about it. Jack harrison etc are going to be delighted they signed for Everton! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Erikse said: "Terrible manager complains about being treated as a terrible manager" Some unsuccessful people really love playing the victim.. Wish he'd just fuck off forever, the disgusting waste of space. Cunt of a bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, SiLvOR said: Wish he'd just fuck off forever, the disgusting waste of space. Cunt of a bloke. This interview is so one sided, literally ignoring many key parts of the criticism. Funny how Jordan always accuse everyone else of having biases, then delivers highly biased interviews like this. Wasn't he the one who were having a go at Piers Morgan because he wasn't being critical enough with Ronaldo in his interview? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Now Simon Jordan is saying that it was just a media narrative that Steve Bruce played bad football with dinosaur tactics, and that the only reason we liked Benitez more was because he dared to challenge Ashley. Oh, and by the way, lets bring up the difference in spending between Howe and Bruce, while also ignoring the difference in spending between Bruce and Benitez. Simon Jordan talking like a Newcastle expert when he clearly didn't even watch our games under Bruce.. Just making assumptions and present them as facts, while creating false narratives himself.. Honestly most people in here could be doing punditry better than these lot, the level is just really low.. Edited September 23, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, Erikse said: Now Simon Jordan is saying that it was just a media narrative that Steve Bruce played bad football with dinosaur tactics, and that the only reason we liked Benitez more was because he dared to challenge Ashley. Oh, and by the way, lets bring up the difference in spending between Howe and Bruce, while also ignoring the difference in spending between Bruce and Benitez. Simon Jordan talking like a Newcastle expert when he clearly didn't even watch our games under Bruce.. Just making assumptions and present them as facts, while creating false narratives himself.. Honestly most people in here could be doing punditry better than these lot, the level is just really low.. As much as I’m hated for saying it - he’s not wrong. Benitez played arguably worse football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Just now, tgarve said: As much as I’m hated for saying it - he’s not wrong. Benitez played arguably worse football Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tgarve said: As much as I’m hated for saying it - he’s not wrong. Benitez played arguably worse football I don't know. I remember stats saying we were 20th in the league in both chances created and chances against under Bruce. A miracle we stayed up, and in the last full season we played way better after Graeme Jones came in, and went from 19th to 13th or something like that. Never seen a Bruce team play like that. Coincidence? Right before this we had parked the bus against Sheffield United, giving them their first win of the season (halfway through), just inviting them into our box the entire game. Edited September 23, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, tgarve said: As much as I’m hated for saying it - he’s not wrong. Benitez played arguably worse football such bollocks man, just total rubbish. Even if it was true, which it isn't by a long shot, it completely ignores the context. Literally the only argument you can make in favour of that position is that ASM existed when Bruce was manager, which of course he had nothing to do with. There was the odd bit of backs to the wall stuff under Rafa but the team was drilled properly and had tactical definition. We won the Championship scoring 100 goals in the process and there was some really nice stuff in the two second halves of each respective PL season. There was a sign of a team making progress on the pitch, despite everything. Meanwhile under Bruce we were on a downward curve from the word go which was seriously accelerating by the time he left. It's hilarious how Bruce, or anyone defending him, will point to his apparent achievements re keeping us up when it took an Eddie Howe miracle to prevent us from a Bruce-manufactured relegation. It's amusing also that Jordan would say we only preferred Rafa cos he challenged Ashley. Er, yeah - that was a big part of it, aye. Bravo on not understanding the context if you're using that as a defence of Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, tgarve said: As much as I’m hated for saying it - he’s not wrong. Benitez played arguably worse football Both styles of play weren’t easy on the eye. Benitez’s at least was organised. bruce’s was an absolute mess and the game plan evolved mainly around giving it to ASM and hope he can conjure up some magic. We scored less and conceded more under Bruce. Not sure how that’s better than the bloke he replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Pragmatic football as you build something is perfectly acceptable. When I watched us under Rafa it wasn’t always pretty but I felt the team had a plan and a project that most of the players bought into. Bruceball just felt like floating from match to match hoping we’d get positive result or that the tactic of defend deep and pass to Maxi would work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Bruceball just felt like floating from match to match hoping we’d get positive result or that the tactic of defend deep and pass to Maxi would work. And when that didnt work - he'd sub off the midfield and bring on all the forwards on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 wonder how long carrick gets now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Pragmatic football as you build something is perfectly acceptable. When I watched us under Rafa it wasn’t always pretty but I felt the team had a plan and a project that most of the players bought into. Bruceball just felt like floating from match to match hoping we’d get positive result or that the tactic of defend deep and pass to Maxi would work. I think people deliberately forget the last six months of Rafa's time with us too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I admit I was fishing there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 sake. Ah well, I had fun slagging him off again. Been a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) I kind of don't care that much anymore, but Simon Jordan is getting on my nerves. Having strong opinions about things he doesn't have a clue about, making assumptions, and talking as if he's an expert. At the same time as he attacks other people for seemingly having agendas and biases, not getting facts straight, and mindlessly swallowing media narratives. Which is exactly what he is doing in this case. The least you should expect is for him to get his facts straight, or do some basic fact checking. Edited September 23, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Wonder how long Southampton will give Russell Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 We're due another Watford sacking soon too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Erikse said: I kind of don't care that much anymore, but Simon Jordan is getting on my nerves. Having strong opinions about things he doesn't have a clue about, making assumptions, and talking as if he's an expert. At the same time as he attacks other people for seemingly having agendas and biases, not getting facts straight, and mindlessly swallowing media narratives. Which is exactly what he is doing in this case. The least you should expect is for him to get his facts straight, or do some basic fact checking. He had strong opinions during the takeover and he constantly said under no circumstances would it ever happen, his back tracking afterwards was embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Erikse said: I kind of don't care that much anymore, but Simon Jordan is getting on my nerves. Having strong opinions about things he doesn't have a clue about, making assumptions, and talking as if he's an expert. At the same time as he attacks other people for seemingly having agendas and biases, not getting facts straight, and mindlessly swallowing media narratives. Which is exactly what he is doing in this case. The least you should expect is for him to get his facts straight, or do some basic fact checking. Because his fans tend to be rabid racists who don’t like anything that isn’t a full English breakfast, and spending the day sitting in the pub, he gets away with a lot of stuff because ‘He tells the truth’. In all honesty he speaks a lot of business sense, and his ideas like the Premier League Netflix, which I shared on here before he came out with it on the radio is a good idea and ultimately where we will end up, not matter how long the Premier League drag their heels. Other than that though he’s just mouthpiece of someone who likes and inflates his own opinion too much, combined with liking the idea of winding people up. For example he’s recently been liking Ange Postecoglou’s hoop and saying ‘I have always been a fan of his’. This despite him being on the radio 2 years ago when he was first rumoured to be going to Celtic saying Celtic were making a big mistake and that they were getting a manager from a league where Robbie Fowler is a manager. This goes completely unchallenged. As others have said, it’s rich of him to claim that others have an agenda when whenever the topic of someone he doesn’t like comes up, he always starts off by saying ‘despite my opinions of them’ etc. on top of that his girlfriend has made a political career out of making an agenda. Edited September 23, 2023 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Ladies and Gentlemen the sack race is about to have a winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Sheff U in disarray and a certain Mr N. Warnock just walked out of a fine job well done up the road at Huddersfield. Hero's return at Bramall Lane for Uncle Neil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Has Bruce managed Sheff Utd yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: Has Bruce managed Sheff Utd yet? His first job wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, El Prontonise said: His first job wasn't it? Sounds like a proper homecoming then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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