The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[Yorkie]

40 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

42 minutes ago, Magpie said:

It would be absolutely superb. Cos despite his record for England, he is absolutely dogshit.

 

I genuinely think Bruce might be better than him. Might.....

 

And this sort of thing is how I end up reflexively defending him.

 

It's the most blinkered horseshit take that routinely gets peddled on here. Proper triggers me. Sorry, Magpie. Quite aggressive. But I stand by it.

[Magpie]

6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

It's the most blinkered horseshit take that routinely gets peddled on here. Proper triggers me. Sorry, Magpie. Quite aggressive. But I stand by it.

You're probably spot on to be fair. But I stand by the fact that I think Southgate is just as bad ?

[toon25]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

Feels a bit like this season under Howe tbh, Brighton seem to have been caught in a transition period. Not sure it reflects on De Zerbi necessarily, not sure what happened with Jao Pedro this season, but they still seem to be playing Wellbeck quite a lot and it feels like he's probably 10 years past his prime.

 

They've missed Mitoma massively.

 

Fati has also been very disappointing for them. Looks like that bad injury at Barca might have finished him as an elite-level player.

 

[Chicken Dancer]

Will be interesting to see if a new manager at Liverpool tries to rebuild the team with signings to his style of play or just essentially keeps the same style Klopp has instilled. From what I gather Amorim plays 3 at the back and is relatively forward-thinking in terms of methods but quite pragmatic.

 

I see Edwards is back with a different job title - maybe it's part of the interviews with managers re: style etc. I was listening to the Neville podcast the other week and Ferdinand was on about when David Moyes said to him going in after Ferguson was like a new step-dad telling the kids what to do after their Father left. I can imagine it being the same at Liverpool too.

 

It's going to be a ridiculously hard job for anybody. If you look at their squad, it's good - aging in parts - but it's not amazing. There's amazing players in there but Klopp undoubtably squeezes every bit of talent from the 'lesser' members of the squad. A bit like Howe last season. That being said, there is an seemingly an enormous amount of younger talent coming through, with TAA an experienced member of the squad already. I do worry that injuries might become a bit more regular for him now. He's played so much football from such a young age it sadly seems inevitable. 

 

Lots of the players are completely suited to playing Klopp's way, which is natural when a coach has been there the best part of a decade.

 

It'll probably the next manager after the next manager that get's it right. It'll be the same when Pep eventually leaves City too.

[Tiresias]

I think it's hard to be critical of de zerbi for treating brighton as a stepping stone club when that is explicitly what they are, that's how they are run and how they make money and they are brilliant at it. As long as they can keep digging out gems they will be fun to watch and competing for europe, I understand why the fans are very loyal to bloom he has managed to run it as a business in such a manner it is fun to watch as well. The big however comes, there is a ceiling on how far they will go, which may be a very good ceiling, maybe they can crack top 4, but they relentlessly will have to be selling and buying, and managers will never ever love that, they can buy into it knowing its good for their career doing well under the model, but if they've done well going to a club that will keep hold of players for them and let them make more transfer decisions they may well take that (even if actually their transfer decisions will be worse...)

 

My point being De Zerbi has clearly been agitating for a move. I think he was probably hoping that Arteta would implode and that would come up,  or maybe even spurs. He is in with a shot of Man City when Guardiola walks but not sure on that. I don't really know what Brighton fans would be upset about though, that's kinda the deal, and the club will find another manager who will do similar so noone will lose, except possibly de zerbi when he replaces Ten Hag at Man U and everything goes wrong.

 

(I also think some of Brightons success has been a bit inflated by Todd Boehly flinging money at them for players worth waaaaaay less)

 

 

Edited April 9, 2024 by Tiresias

[Geogaddi]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Fucking hell, I've defended Southgate a canny bit because his record is still very good with England, but fucking hell, I would shit my legs off laughing if Man United appointed him manager. There's no way that can be true, it would be incredible.

Exactly the same , I'm not really bothered about International football but think it's staggering the amount of stick Southgate gets when you look at his tournament record . Literally the only thing preventing him winning a major tournament was a penalty shootout . At the same time it would be hilarious if he got the Man United job.

 

 

Edited April 9, 2024 by Geogaddi

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

Trying to think of replacements - Nico Williams, Bowen, Olise, Wirtz, Musiala?
 

Be interesting to see who they target because I’d say all of those names are way below Salah’s quality, except Musiala.

They need Darwin to "click" or Jota to stay fit and they'll replace the goals. The assists are easier to replace.

 

It's Klopp that's most difficult to replace.

[joeyt]

Graham Potter has turned down the Ajax job. Wonder where he'll end up

[Ben]

4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Fucking hell, I've defended Southgate a canny bit because his record is still very good with England, but fucking hell, I would shit my legs off laughing if Man United appointed him manager. There's no way that can be true, it would be incredible.

 

I reckon this story could have some truth in it

[lovejoy]

4 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

I reckon this story could have some truth in it

 

It'll happen imo.

[TRon]

10 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

I reckon this story could have some truth in it

 

Old Trafford does seem to have become a gathering point for some of Ratshit's old football mates down the years. Has a whiff of Mike Ashley about it, where Sir Jim seems to think he knows more about football than actual football people. I'm sure Southgate's a great guy, can't say I've ever been convinced there's a great football manager there. Man U just seems like the wrong job in every way possible.

 

 

Edited April 9, 2024 by TRon

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Graham Potter has turned down the Ajax job. Wonder where he'll end up

 

West Ham in the summer.

[The College Dropout]

West Ham fans will hate that boring ball.

[The College Dropout]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

West Ham fans will hate that boring ball.

West Ham want to be Spursey.

 

Went down an AVB rabbit hole. He's a rally car driver now.

[54]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

West Ham want to be Spursey.

 

Went down an AVB rabbit hole. He's a rally car driver now.

I know you've probably done it to add context, but the way you have just quoted your previous post makes it look like you're just having a conversation with yourself  

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

West Ham fans will hate that boring ball.

 

Doesn't play boring football? The difference he made to the style of play when he took over after Hughton was massive.

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Doesn't play boring football? The difference he made to the style of play when he took over after Hughton was massive.

They didn’t score a lot of goals iirc. RDZ took them to another level. 
 

My idea of Potter ball is rather slow and controlled build up. 

[TRon]

20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

They didn’t score a lot of goals iirc. RDZ took them to another level. 
 

My idea of Potter ball is rather slow and controlled build up. 

 

 

have you seen the style of football under the current West Ham manager?

 

 

[Nobody]

2 hours ago, joeyt said:

Graham Potter has turned down the Ajax job. Wonder where he'll end up

England, though Man U could do a lot worse than him as well IMO. 

[Guest]

Wouldn't even be a big surprise if he went back to Brighton if De Zerbi goes.

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, TRon said:

 

 

have you seen the style of football under the current West Ham manager?

 

 

They need Bobby Martinez.  

[Nobody]

4 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

They didn’t score a lot of goals iirc. RDZ took them to another level. 
 

My idea of Potter ball is rather slow and controlled build up. 

They created loads of chances, just didn't have a striker to put them away.

Potter would be a huge step up from Moyes in terms of the football they'd play. 

[The Butcher]

 

[The College Dropout]

47 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

 

Some on here have Howe as a father figure too tbf. 

[Ben]

Potter linked with Man Utd, looks like Asworth has been doing some moonlighting during his gardening leave.