PineBarrens Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The huge absence of black managers is clear reason enough to demonstrate both that discrimination is happening, and this happens without anyone being a mad racist discriminating purely on people's skin, but on a series of prejudices that starts from black players assuming that they can't make it in coaching so not even trying through to black managers struggling to get enough experience that they then can't get jobs at the top level because there are already so many white coaches moving about and upwards. Could not disagree more. Football cares solely about money and trophies. They will use players and managers of any colour to achieve that aim. Total nonsense. This post is incredibly silly. You can say the same thing for politics or the business world. But we've seen in large corporations women and ethnic minorities under-represented in positions of power. And not for a lack of qualifications. Again - what constitutes a leader, strategic acumen can be changed by your own internal bias subconsciously. Someone else posted it. But the role of a football manager and his skills are highly subjective. Pearce, Southgate & Sherwood for example all got their first taste as untested and inexperienced managers in the PL. No real tangible CV to land those roles. We can argue until were blue in he face you would never know for sure either way. FYI I wouldn't employ any woman in a position of power because they continually lose power to men. Aye aye, John Leslie's had a malibu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Gus surely has to be close to the sack now. Just in time for the new manager to come in and earn brownie points by beating us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Can't be bothered to go back and find the relevant posts to quote, but the reason there are so few good black managers is because they're not getting given the chance to become good managers. It's not a Premier League problem, the opportunities are just not there at any level of the game, so it's not as simple as them just needing to get experience in the lower leagues. It's exactly the same as the situation in the NFL before the Rooney Rule. Black coaches could barely get a job before, but since the opportunities became available, two of them have won Superbowls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Can't be bothered to go back and find the relevant posts to quote, but the reason there are so few good black managers is because they're not getting given the chance to become good managers. It's not a Premier League problem, the opportunities are just not there at any level of the game, so it's not as simple as them just needing to get experience in the lower leagues. It's exactly the same as the situation in the NFL before the Rooney Rule. Black coaches could barely get a job before, but since the opportunities became available, two of them have won Superbowls. http://media.giphy.com/media/TWhOmZ783UrwA/giphy.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I don't care if you're black, brown, yellow - Orientals make very good Premier League managers, so.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 BBC Sport @BBCSport 1m1 minute ago Brentford confirm manager Mark Warburton will leave Championship club at the end of the season. More to follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'd like to propose a toast in honour of his achievements at Brentford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Well that's a loaf off my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 He must have plenty dough if he's resigned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Too late to go to Aston Villa NPW cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 You could have at yeast used a pun that hasn't already been used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 You could have at yeast used a pun that hasn't already been used Thought it seemed familiar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Bet you still had a rye smile anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Bet you still had a rye smile anyway. Fuck's sake. No knead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sol Campbell's a right weirdo Gay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I've calmed down a bit now. Come to the realisation that at least from Saturday on it won't continue to be a total re-run of almost every match for the last two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Should be a vast improvement on the dour shite you have been watching the last few years like. At least Sherwood wants to play attacking football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Aye, I think Sherwood's an absolute wanker but it'll be far more interesting as a fan. Lambert's brand of football was an insomniac's dream - dull, insipid, risk-averse, dreary shite. At least they'll see a bit of action/excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I think the fact he's not Paul Lambert will be enough to keep them up. Not sure how well he'll do long term though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sherwood could be all hot air or there could be some real substance to him. He's no Pardew btw, he f***ing schooled Pardew when they thumped us 5-0 and he is far more adventurous and more of a risk taker. He is full of himself and he does seem quite the chancer, but good luck to him and Villa. Id far rather see him do well than some of the old skool lot who seem to be on a never ending managerial merry go round to nothing vile. Lambert will probably land a cushy job in the Championship or maybe even at another PL club because he took Norwich up, kept them up and then kept Villa up before being cruelly sacked because of misfiring strikers... He should never be allowed to manage again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Aye, I think Sherwood's an absolute wanker but it'll be far more interesting as a fan. Lambert's brand of football was an insomniac's dream - dull, insipid, risk-averse, dreary shite. At least they'll see a bit of action/excitement. He seems incredibly confident. I am always in awe of people like that, whichever line of work they are in, people who are just so pumped with their view of their own ability. I am the same age as him and spend most of my time undergoing a nascent mid-life crisis and thinking how I don't have half the confidence when I was 26 rather than 46, so I am extra respectful of people the same age who are the opposite. Confidence alone won't be enough, but, despite the truly mind bogglingly shit performances of over two years (and I know I go on about them on here, but honestly, believe me, if anything, I've been understating things), there isn't a huge amount wrong with this team. The squad is now pretty decent, there are decent players to choose from in most positions, and we can, when we try, do the basics quite well. We can also defend (our GD is about not scoring rather than not defending). There isn't a huge amount wrong, and that is why people got so fucking annoyed with Lambert. For about a year, we (the fans) have been saying "why the FUCK do we never get midfielders into the box? We'd find it much easier if we did", yet Lambert never seemed to spot it. Sherwood, it seems, saw it and had a word at half time, and lo and behold, we start to do it in the second half, and win. It was like finally seeing something you've missed for years. Just the simple stuff being put right. I am much more hopeful we can improve now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I am always in awe of people like that, whichever line of work they are in, people who are just so pumped with their view of their own ability. I am the same age as him and spend most of my time undergoing a nascent mid-life crisis and thinking how I don't have half the confidence when I was 26 rather than 46, so I am extra respectful of people the same age who are the opposite. I am much more hopeful we can improve now. I've stuck Guzan, Vlaar, Cissokho and Hutton in one of my FF teams, so I must agree. They're really cheap, like. Confidence is a proper mindfuck, it only works if you're thick. If you have any semblance of thought, you will - and should - question your self-belief. If you are stupid, you will just keep shouting. That's how it works and how the stupid selfish bastards get rich. I could link you to my company's website to show you an array of asinine twats, but arrays of those are freely available and will become more so leading up to the election. You're not that old anyway, man. Fucking Thatcher was elected the week before I was allowed to vote. I was furious, and haven't stopped being furious ever since. I am furious. No, I really am. I could have stopped all this by being born a week earlier. Bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 What was interesting today (well, the second half) was that, for the first time in about 2 years, we got midfielders into the box. I make no claim to know a huge amount about tactics, but that was a glaringly obvious problem Lambert had. Play two midfielders who are really the same player (Cleverley, Westwood), and another who is not hugely dissimilar (Delph) and have then stand next to each other in the middle of the pitch for 88 of the 90 minutes, making no attempt to get into the box. Meanwhile Weimann and (when playing) Agbonlahor would get sucked back into midfield, leaving Benteke alone up front, in a different f***ing postcode, getting more and more frustrated. Anyone watching that, though, who wonders why Villa fans have been unhappy needs to realise, that first half, that is what we have been watching EVERY MATCH at home for the last five years under Lambert and McLeish particularly, and Houllier a fair amount. In fact, even when we finished sixth three times in a row under O'Neill, home matches were awful, as we didn't get to counter attack so just had zero idea what to do. I doubt there's another club in the top flight for whom home matches have been so eye bleedingly horrific as ours for almost ten years. Hello, I'm a Sunderland fan who was a season ticket holder for the reigns of Wilkinson, McCarthy, Bruce and now Poyet. Pleased to meet you. Edit: How could I forget O'Neill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 How formal of you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think Martinez will be on his way soon. Everton fans not happy. LOL on both accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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