Guest HTT II Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) To be fair, he’s done a decent job and would have probably taken them to another top 4 finish this season. He’s just not got the personality or tactical nous to make a good team into a great team in the same way Raneiri wasn’t at Chelsea which needed a Mourinho to get the job done. It says more about the people in charge at the club that they’ve basically wasted another season and even a blind man could have told them OGS should have only ever been a stop gap type appointment. Conte was available in the summer and would have been a great fit even if short-term, I feel they need to look at Chelsea as a model to follow managerial wise. The Ajax fella, I feel he’d flop there. I’d go all out for Zidane or Simeone, or I hear Keane wants back into management… Edited November 21, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 A truly sad day for non Man United fans. It's been fun to watch and I can't believe it lasted this long in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Not a dig at anyone here but the general discourse around Solskjaer I've found incredibly tedious, so for that reason I'm glad he's gone. No interest in seeing ManU prosper of course but would love to see Zidane in the PL. it was actually, for me anyway, a decent distraction from the shit show that was Ashley and Bruce’s NUFC. The OGS debate that is on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Raconteur said: @Froggy what are your thoughts on Carrick? I listened to some commentators saying the coaches were as responsible, if not more so, than Ole, on account of him delegating all the coaching and Man U looking generally disorganised and uncoached? I would prefer a new manager to bring in their own staff to he honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I can't think of many players that have improved under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, toon25 said: I can't think of many players that have improved under him. Greenwood? That’s all I could come up with… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, toon25 said: I can't think of many players that have improved under him. Pretty much every single player. This is a bizarre take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Raconteur said: Greenwood? That’s all I could come up with… Not Rashford who scored 20+ the last two seasons? Not Shaw who people were talking about as one of the best left backs on the planet during the Euros? Seriously. Stop thinking of how poor we've been the last couple of months and look at the bigger picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Froggy said: Not Rashford who scored 20+ the last two seasons? Not Shaw who people were talking about as one of the best left backs on the planet during the Euros? Seriously. Stop thinking of how poor we've been the last couple of months and look at the bigger picture. Rashford and Shaw were both good players once, and Ole got them back playing at their level. Fair dos. But did he make either of them better than they had previously shown? Or just better than they were under Mourinho? Im not invested enough and don’t watch enough Man U games for my opinion to have any merit, but I don’t think that opinion is as outrageous as you’re suggesting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Ole has not done that bad, his teams at times were oodles more fun to watch than Mourinho's. He is clearly not a manager who will ever compete for the champions league and he seemed to have run into a wall this season, and also why on earth did they not sign new midfielders, but depicting him as hopeless is nuts especially considering the behind the scenes dumpsterfire that is clearly man united. I can see him doing a perfectly decent mid tier premier league job. They are also totally fucked, they need a manager who will nurture a new young side into a more modern tactically astute side that can compete with the man citys and bayern munichs of the world. They also need a manager who won't piss off ronaldo by asking him to do some work or dropping him. They can't do both. Zidane probably would be best but he wants the France job doesnt he, why would he firefight? Edited November 21, 2021 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Interim manager till the end of the season then Ten Hag I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Or Poch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Seems clear Zizou said non to the dump truck full of cash the Glazers drove to his house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ben said: Interim manager till the end of the season then Ten Hag I reckon Surely that means they will take someone out of work until an in work manager is available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, tgarve said: Surely that means they will take someone out of work until an in work manager is available Step up Mr Stephen Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 50/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Can’t see Enrique leaving before the World Cup next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 #OleOut #BruceIn Come on Man Utd! You know you want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) I’m pleased for Solskjaer, he’s a proud footballing man but now he and his family will get a break from the horrendous abuse on social media, people calling him Noddy, comparing him to a terrible driver etc. The Solkjaer family are the real winners in this and Man Utd fans should be ashamed. Edited November 21, 2021 by Kimbo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Raconteur said: Rashford and Shaw were both good players once, and Ole got them back playing at their level. Fair dos. But did he make either of them better than they had previously shown? Or just better than they were under Mourinho? Im not invested enough and don’t watch enough Man U games for my opinion to have any merit, but I don’t think that opinion is as outrageous as you’re suggesting? Shaw was awful under Mourinho. They hated each other and Mourinho constantly threw him under the bus. Rashford is infinitely better than he was under anyone else. Fred, McTominay, Greenwood and Pogba have all also improved under Solskjaer. Fernandes has also been sublime but then he was in great form at Sporting too. None of this excuses how poor it has been this season though. Not making any excuses for it, simply not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Madness that they didn’t sack him a few weeks ago and get Conte in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Who do you want Froggy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, Raconteur said: Rashford and Shaw were both good players once, and Ole got them back playing at their level. Fair dos. But did he make either of them better than they had previously shown? Or just better than they were under Mourinho? Im not invested enough and don’t watch enough Man U games for my opinion to have any merit, but I don’t think that opinion is as outrageous as you’re suggesting? Shaw was always a good player, it just took him a while to get back to it after that horrific injury. Weird for someone to claim OGS improved Rashford when he played his best football under Mourinho. Fred and McTominay, two of the worst PL players being singled out as improved under OGS Fuck me, this bloke doesn’t have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 #Bruceatthewheel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) There isn’t that much wrong with Man Utd’s squad, but they are too heavy in attacking talent and have struggled to fit them all in, and they also have some average (for this level) midfielders and have been unbalanced for a while. A sharp manager like Conte would probably find a winning formula with that squad, even if it meant upsetting someone or a few of the bigger names by leaving them out. I think Fernandez has obviously been a brilliant signing, but he looks kind of burnt out after his whirlwind run of games and stats and I’m not sure Ronaldo leading the line is best for his own game either. Any world-class coach would have these competing again within a transfer window or two easily, though. Edited November 21, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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