KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 22 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: I think people are being far too harsh far too early with Parker. He has a lot to learn but I think he's possibly got something and he's young. You're right about this, and I've said this from way back. His teams are cohesive and use the ball well. And he already has two promotions from the Championship. He's just not at all good dealing with those above him at the club, and throws a strop when he isn't given the resources he wants. If he had just showed some patience and stuck it out with Bournemouth this season, he would have been in a great position right now with the new owner who has money to spend and has been forthcoming with it. People are just obsessed with the outfits he wears for some very strange reason, and go on about that all the time as if that has anything to do with his abilities as a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, KaKa said: You're right about this, and I've said this from way back. His teams are cohesive and use the ball well. And he already has two promotions from the Championship. He's just not at all good dealing with those above him at the club, and throws a strop when he isn't given the resources he wants. If he had just showed some patience and stuck it out with Bournemouth this season, he would have been in a great position right now with the new owner who has money to spend and has been forthcoming with it. People are just obsessed with the outfits he wears for some very strange reason, and go on about that all the time as if that has anything to do with his abilities as a manager. What happened to him at Fulham do you think? He had a decent set up there. I do actually agree that he's a level above Lampard and Gerrard, he always came across as a considerate coach for what that's worth. Beyond that I'm just going off him not really doing much at any of his clubs other than getting disenchanted after a season or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Mendieta or Boateng next? Used to love Mendieta. Wonder if he still lives in Yarm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, KaKa said: You're right about this, and I've said this from way back. His teams are cohesive and use the ball well. And he already has two promotions from the Championship. He's just not at all good dealing with those above him at the club, and throws a strop when he isn't given the resources he wants. If he had just showed some patience and stuck it out with Bournemouth this season, he would have been in a great position right now with the new owner who has money to spend and has been forthcoming with it. People are just obsessed with the outfits he wears for some very strange reason, and go on about that all the time as if that has anything to do with his abilities as a manager. He's failed spectacularly at Brugge, which you left out and has seemingly developed a heightened sense of self off of his work with Fulham and Bournemouth. Parker's pursuit of Barbour model status is unquestionable, but he's done nothing to earn any of the roles he was given. His managerial career has been handed to him rather than earned like a Potter or Howe. He's just less of a prick than Stevie G and Lamps. 7 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Time will tell. I certainly think he's got more credibility in the bank than Lampard and Gerrard at this point. He's taken a mighty humbling the last 6 months. Will have to take a gig at a mid table Championship Club as the bigger ones down there wouldn't risk it with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, TRon said: What happened to him at Fulham do you think? He had a decent set up there. I do actually agree that he's a level above Lampard and Gerrard, he always came across as a considerate coach for what that's worth. Beyond that I'm just going off him not really doing much at any of his clubs other than getting disenchanted after a season or so. He quit over signings. Got annoyed at the resources he was given similar to Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Bonk said: He's failed spectacularly at Brugge, which you left out and has seemingly developed a heightened sense of self off of his work with Fulham and Bournemouth. Parker's pursuit of Barbour model status is unquestionable, but he's done nothing to earn any of the roles he was given. His managerial career has been handed to him rather than earned like a Potter or Howe. He's just less of a prick than Stevie G and Lamps. He's taken a mighty humbling the last 6 months. Will have to take a gig at a mid table Championship Club as the bigger ones down there wouldn't risk it with him. He was at Brugge for 5 mins. Was a goofy move to make mid season with players he would have not known as well, and with no opportunity to have any influence on shaping the squad. I agree his attitude is not good as he is way too impatient that is for sure, and ultimately it will be his undoing as a manager unless he sorts it out. However, purely from watching his teams, I like a good bit of what I have seen. When you say he has done nothing to earn the roles he has been given, what on Earth do you mean? He has the qualifications, and had a pretty high reputation in the game from his playing days. That gets you in the door at a lot of clubs. He started as a coach at Spurs under 19s before joining Fulham as a coach for the first team under Jokanovic and then Ranieri, and he took over as caretaker when both were sacked, before then becoming manager. He then brought them straight back up after they were relegated. He then fell out over signings at Fulham and left, and then joined Bournemouth as manager in the Championship and brought them straight up, before losing his cool and getting ditched again. Why would you say he hasn't earned any of his roles? That's strange man. Edited March 15, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, KaKa said: He was at Brugge for 5 mins. Was a goofy move to make mid season with players he would have not known as well, and with no opportunity to have any influence on shaping the squad. I agree his attitude is not good as he is way too impatient that is for sure, and ultimately it will be his undoing as a manager unless he sorts it out. However, purely from watching his teams, I like a good bit of what I have seen. When you say he has done nothing to earn the roles he has been given, what on Earth do you mean? He has the qualifications, and had a pretty high reputation in the game from his playing days. That gets you in the door at a lot of clubs. He started as a coach at Spurs under 19s before joining Fulham as a coach for the first team under Jokanovic and then Ranieri, and he took over as caretaker when both were sacked, before then becoming manager. He then brought them straight back up after they were relegated. He then fell out over signings at Fulham and left, and then joined Bournemouth as manager in the Championship and brought them straight up, before losing his cool and getting ditched again. Why would you say he hasn't earned any of his roles? That's strange man. Fair enough, he's had some exposure and learning there, but it seems like a dramatic climb in a short span of time which has shown evidence in his dealing with off the pitch business. Howe and Potter wouldn't make the PR mistakes Parker has made, but they probably don't have the ego Parker does. As a figure head of those promotions he's gained notoriety, but how much was due to the coaching staffs, players he inherited? I think Brugge were idiotic in thinking Parker actually had the pedigree to push them on in Europe or domestically. I don't blame Parker for having a crack at the redemption arc. I also have a bias against Parker from his time here and thought he was overrated in what he brought on the pitch. For the most part, he was a model pro, played to the best of his ability. Always felt like he was too good for us, but maybe that was the media. In short, I don't like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Fair enough, he's had some exposure and learning there, but it seems like a dramatic climb in a short span of time which has shown evidence in his dealing with off the pitch business. Howe and Potter wouldn't make the PR mistakes Parker has made, but they probably don't have the ego Parker does. As a figure head of those promotions he's gained notoriety, but how much was due to the coaching staffs, players he inherited? I think Brugge were idiotic in thinking Parker actually had the pedigree to push them on in Europe or domestically. I don't blame Parker for having a crack at the redemption arc. I also have a bias against Parker from his time here and thought he was overrated in what he brought on the pitch. For the most part, he was a model pro, played to the best of his ability. Always felt like he was too good for us, but maybe that was the media. In short, I don't like him. Ah, I see where you're coming from now. That's fair. Yeah, he just gets too worked up over stuff. I remember he started well here but towards the end he was getting some criticism over some of his play and took it to heart way too much and he ended up falling out completely with the fan base and leaving in a strop. It's a recurring theme with him. He just needs to grow up to be honest. He has some talent as a manager, but as you said he is awful off the pitch, when dealing with the guys in the boardroom and that bit is absolutely crucial. Due to his impatience he's already wasted opportunities at two pretty decent clubs who would have supported him with resources eventually, and now both Silva and Gary O'Neill look like they will benefit instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 16 hours ago, KaKa said: Ah, I see where you're coming from now. That's fair. Yeah, he just gets too worked up over stuff. I remember he started well here but towards the end he was getting some criticism over some of his play and took it to heart way too much and he ended up falling out completely with the fan base and leaving in a strop. It's a recurring theme with him. He just needs to grow up to be honest. He has some talent as a manager, but as you said he is awful off the pitch, when dealing with the guys in the boardroom and that bit is absolutely crucial. Due to his impatience he's already wasted opportunities at two pretty decent clubs who would have supported him with resources eventually, and now both Silva and Gary O'Neill look like they will benefit instead. I'm aligned with him having more about him than Gerrard or Lampard, though. If Parker checked his ego and spent some time developing under a heralded manager like Howe did, probably do wonders for his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Vieira sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Butcher Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Good move imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On St Patrick’s day? That is shameful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Who’s decent and available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Who’s decent and available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Who’s decent and available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Wonder if Jesse March is favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Interesting. I thought they'd give it more time than that. It doesn't seem like he was under any external pressure at all either Edited March 17, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, joeyt said: Please please please please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Who’s decent and available? Big Sam Brewcey Woy Appy arry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I wasn't expecting this, maybe because he's such a big name. However, Palace are under-achieving, given the talent in their squad. From what I've seen, team spirit seems to be a bit lacking. If they go down, we should be in for Eze. A really good player who just needs a gentle kick up the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Not sure how good the Palace squad is mind. Two good CBs, some unproven attackers and nothing in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GeordieDazzler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Big Sam or Sherwood to push them closer to the PFM full house Wonder if Rafa would be tempted? Edited March 17, 2023 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I feel it's harsh. They had a ridiculously difficult run. After this Arsenal game they have a very winnable run in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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