healthyaddiction Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Aye, that's why the majority of the Boro fans wanted him sacked. Footy fans are morons in general. Look at our lot, many wanted Bobby peddled. Means nowt. He did a very good job at Boro, keeping them up, winning a trophy, getting to Europe and bringing on youth. They would f***ing kill for those days now. I know plenty of Everton fans who constantly asked questions of Moyes and were delighted to see him leave. For the time Middlesbrough were pretty big spenders which helped contribute to the success. The football was awful which I believe was why the fans didn't like him. While you can say that perhaps McClaren has had more success, I would say he has also had a lot more failure too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Balague is such a fucking weirdo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Makes nee sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Any idea what he means? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Yeah, too many British managers ruining their careers by going overseas. Getting out of hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Aye, that's why the majority of the Boro fans wanted him sacked. Footy fans are morons in general. Look at our lot, many wanted Bobby peddled. Means nowt. He did a very good job at Boro, keeping them up, winning a trophy, getting to Europe and bringing on youth. They would f***ing kill for those days now. I know plenty of Everton fans who constantly asked questions of Moyes and were delighted to see him leave. For the time Middlesbrough were pretty big spenders which helped contribute to the success. The football was awful which I believe was why the fans didn't like him. While you can say that perhaps McClaren has had more success, I would say he has also had a lot more failure too. His football was functional and boring, similar to Moyes' at Everton who also had money to spend. His failure at England is comparable to Moyes' failure at Man Utd. Unlike the Scot, McClaren has actually won stuff as well and got to a European Final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Everton played some good stuff under Moyes, especially in his last couple of years there, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I actually rate McClaren a bit higher than Moyes like. No way IMO Done more in his career tbh. What he did at Boro is akin to what Moyes done at Everton and of course he won the Dutch League. Moyes is Pullis without the cap. Didn't he have a fair bit of money to spend at boro. Everton were always balanced in their spending and he brought through Rooney, Stones, Coleman, Barkley and built a decent side that were well organised and hard to beat. Maybe the key is a half likeable manager like Moyes or McLaren being given the time they need to shape it and build something even if we are a bit shit or up and down during the process. I could never give Pardew that time because he was an insufferable cunt of the highest order. I can half tolerate alky Schteeve McDutchman as long as he recognises his mistakes and attempts to rectify, which he appears to be doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Everton played some good stuff under Moyes, especially in his last couple of years there, imo. They did, but it was still too direct and long ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I actually rate McClaren a bit higher than Moyes like. No way IMO Done more in his career tbh. What he did at Boro is akin to what Moyes done at Everton and of course he won the Dutch League. Moyes is Pullis without the cap. Didn't he have a fair bit of money to spend at boro. Everton were always balanced in their spending and he brought through Rooney, Stones, Coleman, Barkley and built a decent side that were well organised and hard to beat. Maybe the key is a half likeable manager like Moyes or McLaren being given the time they need to shape it and build something even if we are a bit s*** or up and down during the process. I could never give Pardew that time because he was an insufferable c*** of the highest order. I can half tolerate alky Schteeve McDutchman as long as he recognises his mistakes and attempts to rectify, which he appears to be doing They are a much of a muchness tbh. I just prefer McClaren over Moyes, only slightly mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I actually rate McClaren a bit higher than Moyes like. No way IMO Done more in his career tbh. What he did at Boro is akin to what Moyes done at Everton and of course he won the Dutch League. Moyes is Pullis without the cap. Didn't he have a fair bit of money to spend at boro. Everton were always balanced in their spending and he brought through Rooney, Stones, Coleman, Barkley and built a decent side that were well organised and hard to beat. Maybe the key is a half likeable manager like Moyes or McLaren being given the time they need to shape it and build something even if we are a bit s*** or up and down during the process. I could never give Pardew that time because he was an insufferable c*** of the highest order. I can half tolerate alky Schteeve McDutchman as long as he recognises his mistakes and attempts to rectify, which he appears to be doing They are a much of a muchness tbh. I just prefer McClaren over Moyes, only slightly mind. I think he talks some sense and I don't want to punch him in the face every time. This can be about either but doesn't apply to the southern based, self indulgent shitbag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Balague is such a fucking weirdo. He's a slightly more eloquent Spanish Lee Ryder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I actually rate McClaren a bit higher than Moyes like. Same here but there's not a lot in it. Both are cautious, with McClaren playing slightly better football. I think they are both yesterday's men tbh, there are far brighter and younger coaches coming through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I actually rate McClaren a bit higher than Moyes like. Same here but there's not a lot in it. Both are cautious, with McClaren playing slightly better football. I think they are both yesterday's men tbh, there are far brighter and younger coaches coming through. Agreed. They will both one day end up at a club and do well enough using their style and methods but if you are a so-called big club like us and wanting to progress you don't appoint a Moyes or a McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I actually rate McClaren a bit higher than Moyes like. Same here but there's not a lot in it. Both are cautious, with McClaren playing slightly better football. I think they are both yesterday's men tbh, there are far brighter and younger coaches coming through. Agreed. They will both one day end up at a club and do well enough using their style and methods but if you are a so-called big club like us and wanting to progress you don't appoint a Moyes or a McClaren. Absolutely, Moyes for me has an underdog mentality, can create a decent/solid team but doesn't have a brand of exciting football. McClaren likes a team that's easier on the eyes but still is lacking in real quality. Both are good managers for lower midtable teams which, with our infastructure, we shouldn't be aspiring to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Lower midtable, man. Moyes had Everton consistently finishing top 6 without a penny to spend. People loving perpetuating silly stereotypes by rewriting history, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Lower midtable, man. Moyes had Everton consistently finishing top 6 without a penny to spend. People loving perpetuating silly stereotypes by rewriting history, like. No doubting Moyes has a lot about him as a manager but I reckon the stability he was given by Everton contributed a lot to his output. Not surprising like, but I doubt he would get the chance to build NUFC from the bottom up the way he was allowed to do for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Lower midtable, man. Moyes had Everton consistently finishing top 6 without a penny to spend. People loving perpetuating silly stereotypes by rewriting history, like. They barely spent anything for years. The guy did a fantastic job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Lower midtable, man. Moyes had Everton consistently finishing top 6 without a penny to spend. People loving perpetuating silly stereotypes by rewriting history, like. They barely spent anything for years. The guy did a fantastic job. He did, but he was afforded total control and this spent nowt stuff is bollocks like, they spent what money they had, same as Boro. Moyes is a good manager but he is the kind of manager that will only ever be a good fit at a certain club, Everton was his fit. Big Sam and Bolton. Pullis and Stoke, Pardew and Palace. Remove them from their type of clubs and they struggle. McClaren at least has shown that he can adapt and do something away from his club, i.e. a Boro. What he achieved at Twente is massive and gives him a leg up if you like in my reckoning. He's not the right man for us and never will be but I'd rather have him here than say Moyes who would be just another Pullis or Big Sam IMO, for us anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 They actually went about 3 seasons without spending a penny man, it was a running joke There was a website about it and everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Fair enough, my point still stands though, he's an underwhelming manager ideal for certain clubs of which we are not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Your point was predicated on a falsehood but it still stands? There's a difference between not backing down and just acting the goat, HTT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Moyes must kick himself for leaving Everton. Job for life there. Still he will be a very rich man from his last two dismissals. Wonder what other progression can you totally miss expectations and end up with more money than what you would if you hit them? I'd still have him here like. He's a much better manager the what we've got, but he's probably still not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Balague is such a fucking weirdo. He's a slightly more eloquent Spanish Lee Ryder ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Moyes was absolutely mint at Everton, I don't know why that's at all in question like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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