The Managerial Merry Go Round™

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[joeyt]

 

Such a PFM Brexit comment

[wormy]

It's so weird how half the stuff he comes out with would make me hate most other managers but I can't help but still love the mad old bastard. 

[gbandit]

He’s quality. An angry old gammon but one who’s able to laugh at himself 

[The Prophet]

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Absurdly good appointment for them

 

[Fezzle]

41 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Isnt that the bloke who said he definitely wasnt going there last week when the rumours started?

[janpawel]

Don't know anything about the guy, is this a good appointment for them? 

 

 

[Geogaddi]

6 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Don't know anything about the guy, is this a good appointment for them? 

 

 

Nobody knows really, he could be good, he could also be the next Villas-Boas, hopefully the latter. 

 

 

Edited April 9, 2024 by Geogaddi

[GeordieDazzler]

5 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Don't know anything about the guy, is this a good appointment for them? 

 

 

Pretty flawless CV in Portugal but obviously big boots to fill and the PL has more competitive teams outside the top clubs. 
 

Always difficult to replace a force of nature manager like Klopp who has basically rebuilt the club in his image. 
 

Glad they’ve not got Alonso. 

[TRon]

Liverpool are a shitbag club, no English manager is good enough for them. Seems like they are only interested in hiring from abroad when there's clearly talented up and coming managers in our own leagues who  never get a sniff. They should have gone for proven cup winner Moyes, or if they really wanted to show they mean business, how about poaching Sean Dyche from bitter rivals Everton?

 

 

[Minhosa]

Doesn't he play 3 at the back?

 

Would be interesting to see how that goes down with the Anfield faithful whilst following a legend...

[Tiresias]

Kinda feel whoever takes over may be on a hiding to nothing. Suspect Salah and other aging players will see Klopp going as a good time to leave as well for one last payday, they feel midway through that transition anyway which is a bad time to take over. Will he get the patience as suspect the change will mean a season or two adapting and changing and that means fighting for champions league place rather than title, if that isn't good enough will he be shown door as soon as Alonso is actually available (suspect he will go to Real Madrid anyway but that never lasts forever in fairness). Having said that could be seen as a can't lose on his behalf, either he establishes himself well at top end of premier league immediately, or he fails because noone could succeed after Klopp and will no doubt get chances at other premier league clubs. 

 

I just feel a little for De Zerbi clearly auditioning for top premier league job by making a similar move but to brighton and gets skipped over, having said that I think De Zerbi has had a fairly mid season with Brighton so can see him being passed over a bit. 

[Minhosa]

5 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

Kinda feel whoever takes over may be on a hiding to nothing. Suspect Salah and other aging players will see Klopp going as a good time to leave as well for one last payday, they feel midway through that transition anyway which is a bad time to take over. Will he get the patience as suspect the change will mean a season or two adapting and changing and that means fighting for champions league place rather than title, if that isn't good enough will he be shown door as soon as Alonso is actually available (suspect he will go to Real Madrid anyway but that never lasts forever in fairness). Having said that could be seen as a can't lose on his behalf, either he establishes himself well at top end of premier league immediately, or he fails because noone could succeed after Klopp and will no doubt get chances at other premier league clubs. 

 

I just feel a little for De Zerbi clearly auditioning for top premier league job by making a similar move but to brighton and gets skipped over, having said that I think De Zerbi has had a fairly mid season with Brighton so can see him being passed over a bit. 

Salah going in the summer for whatever massive number will be helpful for any new manager in terms of affording his people to play his system so I'd say there should be no excuses, as hard as it will be for anyone to follow Klopp.

 

On the RDZ point, I know a few Brighton fans who are growing frustrated with him and particularly didn't appreciate his recent comments which kind of challenged the boards intentions going forwards. The guys I know are massively loyal to Bloom and Co and not to any manager thats for sure.

 

There is a feeling on the south coast that he's off this summer...

 

 

Edited April 9, 2024 by Minhosa

[GeordieDazzler]

De Zerbi has been actively agitating for a move for a while and he’s been complaining all season. 

[Cf]

De Zerbi certainly can't be said to have done a bad job but it still seems to me that his main achievement is to consolidate what Potter had done - get them as a solid mid table team who can challenge for the European spots. 

 

Last season was job well done. This season there's time to achieve Europe still but very much hanging in the balance. 

 

I dunno. Just feels like he's talked about as if he's in the top tier yet at the same time it doesn't feel like he's had a transformative effect in the same way as Howe or Emery for instance. Different clubs, situations, etc, but I can't help but look at Brighton and think they'd be where they are or possibly higher if they still had Potter. 

[The College Dropout]

6 minutes ago, Cf said:

De Zerbi certainly can't be said to have done a bad job but it still seems to me that his main achievement is to consolidate what Potter had done - get them as a solid mid table team who can challenge for the European spots. 

 

Last season was job well done. This season there's time to achieve Europe still but very much hanging in the balance. 

 

I dunno. Just feels like he's talked about as if he's in the top tier yet at the same time it doesn't feel like he's had a transformative effect in the same way as Howe or Emery for instance. Different clubs, situations, etc, but I can't help but look at Brighton and think they'd be where they are or possibly higher if they still had Potter. 

He took Brighton from 10th to 6th. Sold their 2 best players and still having a solid season.

 

The biggest issue with him is the occasional defensive collapse.

 

A bit unfair to compare him to Howe or Emery at their latest clubs. Newcastle and Villa have invested heavily into improving their squads. It's borne out in the numbers. Both teams should finish in the top 8 based on wages and the cost of the squads. Brighton are down in like 13th/14th for both.

 

Villa finishing 3 places above their wage bill is 4th. Brighton finishing 3 places above their wage bill is something like 10th (haven't checked). You won't get the same plaudits for what is the same accomplishment.

[The College Dropout]

Bloom is probably the best owner in the PL. But he's not running that club at a loss (it seems - I haven't checked). They've made a net £140m in the transfer market over the last 2 years. I don't expect him to try and max out their FFP "budget" to try and break into the top 6/4 permanently.

 

Kudus rejected them in the summer and I can only assume it's because of money. Bloom's not going to chase it. So I get the frustration if there is some from RDZ.

 

Lad they brought in to replace Caicedo hasn't done too well either.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

Although Liverpool will get a substantial fee for Salah, it’s going to be practically impossible to replace him. I mean, how can you?

His output throughout every season he’s been there has been nothing less than extraordinary.

 

 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

Although Liverpool will get a substantial fee for Salah, it’s going to be practically impossible to replace him. I mean, how can you?

His output throughout every season he’s been there has been nothing less than extraordinary.

 

 

Agreed. But they always find a way.

 

It's not a straight line but it's like Fowler, Owen.... Torres, Suarez, Salah.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Agreed. But they always find a way.

 

It's not a straight line but it's like Fowler, Owen.... Torres, Suarez, Salah.

Trying to think of replacements - Nico Williams, Bowen, Olise, Wirtz, Musiala?
 

Be interesting to see who they target because I’d say all of those names are way below Salah’s quality, except Musiala.

[Kid Icarus]

Fucking hell, I've defended Southgate a canny bit because his record is still very good with England, but fucking hell, I would shit my legs off laughing if Man United appointed him manager. There's no way that can be true, it would be incredible.

[Magpie]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Fucking hell, I've defended Southgate a canny bit because his record is still very good with England, but fucking hell, I would shit my legs off laughing if Man United appointed him manager. There's no way that can be true, it would be incredible.

It would be absolutely superb. Cos despite his record for England, he is absolutely dogshit.

 

I genuinely think Bruce might be better than him. Might.....

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Magpie said:

It would be absolutely superb. Cos despite his record for England, he is absolutely dogshit.

 

I genuinely think Bruce might be better than him. Might.....

 

And this sort of thing is how I end up reflexively defending him.

[TRon]

44 minutes ago, Cf said:

De Zerbi certainly can't be said to have done a bad job but it still seems to me that his main achievement is to consolidate what Potter had done - get them as a solid mid table team who can challenge for the European spots. 

 

Last season was job well done. This season there's time to achieve Europe still but very much hanging in the balance. 

 

I dunno. Just feels like he's talked about as if he's in the top tier yet at the same time it doesn't feel like he's had a transformative effect in the same way as Howe or Emery for instance. Different clubs, situations, etc, but I can't help but look at Brighton and think they'd be where they are or possibly higher if they still had Potter. 

 

Feels a bit like this season under Howe tbh, Brighton seem to have been caught in a transition period. Not sure it reflects on De Zerbi necessarily, not sure what happened with Jao Pedro this season, but they still seem to be playing Wellbeck quite a lot and it feels like he's probably 10 years past his prime.