Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 He's got the passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Pro's: He's a Geordie He's free/available He's not Pardew. Cons: Questionable managerial record at lower levels. But that didn't stop Pardew getting the job. Hehe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Birmingham is a nightmare job tbf. Barely spent a penny on transfers in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's a valid excuse. They're running on fumes and would need a far better manager than they can attract to do anything other than avoid relegation every year now. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/birmingham-city-transfers.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 If Pardew does go I'd be very worried we end up with him, maybe even with Beardsley as assistant in some sort of 'Geordie dream team'. Ashley will see it as an easy and more importantly cheap way to appease us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Jigsaw face just been sacked by Birmingham. Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 "John Kramer sacked as Birmingham manager, Dr Gordon appointed caretaker manager" says confused neesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Terrible manager and has the air of unintelligence about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Right on time: @lee_ryder: I know plenty of #nufc fans who would have Lee Clark back at SJP. You can't put a price on his passion. http://t.co/LBXpsZEedF Sadly he's right. There are plenty of thick fans who think being a geordie is the foremost qualification for being a Newcastle manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 There's no excuse for 1 win in 24 home games like. Opened my eyes when Huddersfield gave him the bullet, most people were shocked apart from their fans who were jumping through hoops, and they subsequently got promoted. Fans know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's a valid excuse. They're running on fumes and would need a far better manager than they can attract to do anything other than avoid relegation every year now. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/birmingham-city-transfers.html Jordan Mutch £1,000,000 Ben Foster £3,500,000 Jake Jervis £50,000 Jack Butland £3,500,000 Total £20,950,000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's a valid excuse. They're running on fumes and would need a far better manager than they can attract to do anything other than avoid relegation every year now. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/birmingham-city-transfers.html You're just doing what people do with us, when we slag off pardew. He had loads of money at Huddersfield and couldn't get them up. 1 win in 24 at home, regular negative tactics and awful football. Like I said my best mate supports them so I've seen it. If you think he's good enough for us, then you're in for a shock if he gets the job I haven't said anything even close to that last bit. You simply cannot manage a club well if you don't get any money to spend for years, it's completely different to Pardew getting Internationals handed to him all the time. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/football-transfers/huddersfield-town-transfers.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's a valid excuse. They're running on fumes and would need a far better manager than they can attract to do anything other than avoid relegation every year now. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/birmingham-city-transfers.html You're just doing what people do with us, when we slag off pardew. He had loads of money at Huddersfield and couldn't get them up. 1 win in 24 at home, regular negative tactics and awful football. Like I said my best mate supports them so I've seen it. If you think he's good enough for us, then you're in for a shock if he gets the job I haven't said anything even close to that last bit. You simply cannot manage a club well if you don't get any money to spend for years, it's completely different to Pardew getting Internationals handed to him all the time. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/football-transfers/huddersfield-town-transfers.html The problem is too many people want to rate Clark because he is a local lad rather than any solid reasoning that he's a talented manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's a valid excuse. They're running on fumes and would need a far better manager than they can attract to do anything other than avoid relegation every year now. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/birmingham-city-transfers.html You're just doing what people do with us, when we slag off pardew. He had loads of money at Huddersfield and couldn't get them up. 1 win in 24 at home, regular negative tactics and awful football. Like I said my best mate supports them so I've seen it. If you think he's good enough for us, then you're in for a shock if he gets the job I haven't said anything even close to that last bit. You simply cannot manage a club well if you don't get any money to spend for years, it's completely different to Pardew getting Internationals handed to him all the time. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/football-transfers/huddersfield-town-transfers.html You can attempt to play even remotely good football. Don't know why you are linking Huddersfield, their budget was bigger than most of the teams in the league. http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/birmingham-city-a-huddersfield-fan-on-what-to-expect-from-lee-clark/ Regardless of the money he gets at blues. They've been woeful to watch, and his football is dreadful. He's a poor manager and thats basically pretty much all their is to it. We'll just have to wait and see how well the next manager does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 On the other hand, loads of our fans still give Pardew time and we still get 50k every game. Most outsiders don't even realize there's a problem here. I've never actually said anything about how good he is because I haven't watched anything from his teams and don't tent to trust other peoples opinions for the reason stated above. All I'm saying is the Birmingham job is a massive pain in the arse and will continue to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Lee Ryder's window must have been covered in hallucinogenic drugs which he licked clean. Sycophantic to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 That's true. But I mean I've watched them, and I've got blues supporting mates so I get a good amount of insight. It is, and I wouldn't argue against it but the likes of wolves/Bournemouth/ Ipswich/Rotherham/Brentford are all performing way better on similar budgets Wolves and Bournemouth will have much bigger budgets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Right on time: @lee_ryder: I know plenty of #nufc fans who would have Lee Clark back at SJP. You can't put a price on his passion. http://t.co/LBXpsZEedF Sadly he's right. There are plenty of thick fans who think being a geordie is the foremost qualification for being a Newcastle manager. No there isn't, but there are fans who want a manager they can believe in, who can at least try and understand the club, Keegan was from Yorkshire but the fans responded to his style of play.Even Bobby Robson was a Durham lad but having a North East background and being a United fan from a young age helped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 How does understanding the club help you tactically against Arsenal, or help you develop a young player into a top class one? Completely beyond me that, I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 How does understanding the club help you tactically against Arsenal, or help you develop a young player into a top class one? Completely beyond me that, I'm afraid. So it doesn't matter if a manager doesn't have the understanding of the soul of a club ? The type of player a club who fits in with a certain philosophy of what football should be ? If Keegan understood and Robson understood and even before that Harvey understood then I don't see why there isn't a manager out there who could do the same for us. If thats beyond you, you should be afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's as brainless as the idiot Man U fan who wanted Solskjaer to replace Moyes because he has 'red in his blood'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What's the soul of the club then? You know it when you see it out there on the pitch. It's belief, excitement, faith and a sense of optimism, we've had it in the past, perhaps one day we will have it again.Perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 So the same as every other club? Do they not all want those things? Of course not, Next daft question, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What's the soul of the club then? You know it when you see it out there on the pitch. It's belief, excitement, faith and a sense of optimism, we've had it in the past, perhaps one day we will have it again.Perhaps. Pretty sure Southampton have got that with a Dutchman who's been there five minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What's the soul of the club then? You know it when you see it out there on the pitch. It's belief, excitement, faith and a sense of optimism, we've had it in the past, perhaps one day we will have it again.Perhaps. Pretty sure Southampton have got that with a Dutchman who's been there five minutes. So the same as every other club? Do they not all want those things? Of course not, Next daft question, this attitude doesn't do us any favours at all. Every single set of fans wants their club to be something great. It's not unique to us, its nothing to do with the area. So belief in, and support for Newcastle United has nothing to do with the region ? Is that what you are saying ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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