Jaqen Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Moyes right now is a gamble, not sure it's one I'd personally take if I were Swansea. Apart from the gulf in styles of football the club have compared to him, I think he's taken two huge knocks and it's more than likely a third will come his way rather than redemption especially at a club like Swansea. From what I've read Swansea fans don't want Moyes anywhere near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He wouldn't be a good fit for Swansea, though then again I'm not sure why they would sack Monk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He wouldn't be a good fit for Swansea, though then again I'm not sure why they would sack Monk. 1 win in 12 or something like that is a pretty decent reason like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Not that i think it will happen but i can see Swansea at least try and go for De Boer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He wouldn't be a good fit for Swansea, though then again I'm not sure why they would sack Monk. 1 win in 12 or something like that is a pretty decent reason like. Similar form has the media telling us SMC is doing the best he can though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He wouldn't be a good fit for Swansea, though then again I'm not sure why they would sack Monk. 1 win in 12 or something like that is a pretty decent reason like. Don't really think it is TBH, either they think he's the right man or they don't. A couple of months ago everyone was saying how well they were doing. Clubs who are mid-table should be taking a longer-term view. Unless they have someone else lined up, in which case fair play I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Monk surely deserves to at least try and get over a bad period? I think they along with others are victims of inconsistency which for me is down to just how even a lot of sides are and just how many decent players are at almost all clubs. Teams are beating each other, that's why the league is so tight at the bottom, mid-table and the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Agree, if it is so seems very harsh imo. Plus Moyes would be a bad fit as Ian says. Wrong style and doesn't seem to fit with their club 'philosophy' at all. Rodgers to return would be far better for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Think Monk has been unfairly treated but you can't blame Jenkins for having ambition. If they end up with Moyes or Rodgers they will have improved. Monk will find work quick enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 The farce that is the Premier League doesn't allow for dips in form. If they get rid of Monk can only hope they absolutely capitulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I really don't think it's as harsh as some people are making out, if you've watched them recently they are a complete mess. Think he's lost the players and the fans at this point, so fair play if they want to make a change in order to try and avoid relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 It's the same everywhere though. Even Gateshead sacked a manager a third of the way through the season when 6 off the play-offs. A dip in form is almost critical these days, as too is not hitting the ground running in a new job and not being given time to get ideas across etc. Football is rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 For the record, I don't think Monk should be sacked, but if he does, it's quite understandable. Will likely be 1 win in 13 after the weekend, that's almost Carver levels of bad form and he keeps leaving out players that the Swansea fans would have on the pitch any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I really don't think it's as harsh as some people are making out, if you've watched them recently they are a complete mess. Think he's lost the players and the fans at this point, so fair play if they want to make a change in order to try and avoid relegation. I don't get this though, surely even the best managers are capable of a couple of bad months? It doesn't make any sense to judge things on such a short-term basis. The season is only 15 games old and for a lot of it people were praising Swansea to the rafters. Guess fair enough if they believe they're going down and they think a short term boost is worth sacrificing their manager for. But it doesn't make it right, or logical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Agree, if it is so seems very harsh imo. Plus Moyes would be a bad fit as Ian says. Wrong style and doesn't seem to fit with their club 'philosophy' at all. Rodgers to return would be far better for them. I think a lot of clubs like to push the philosophy of stylish football when the going is good. With the sort of money you get for being in the premier though, I think priorities can sharp change. If Swansea's main concern is relegation then Moyes has a good record in that department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I really don't think it's as harsh as some people are making out, if you've watched them recently they are a complete mess. Think he's lost the players and the fans at this point, so fair play if they want to make a change in order to try and avoid relegation. I don't get this though, surely even the best managers are capable of a couple of bad months? It doesn't make any sense to judge things on such a short-term basis. The season is only 15 games old and for a lot of it people were praising Swansea to the rafters. Guess fair enough if they believe they're going down and they think a short term boost is worth sacrificing their manager for. But it doesn't make it right, or logical. I think it's because it's a lot more than just bad results, some really poor performances for a while now along with very questionable decision making from Monk. Weren't the board unhappy in the summer as they wanted someone more experienced in as an assistant but he wouldn't have it? Break might do him good anyway he's aged so much recently, looks white as a ghost with huge bags under his eyes everytime you see him now. He'll come out of as being treat harsh and with a decent reputation too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm surprised Swansea and sacking him already, thought they would have shown more confidence since they were the ones that give him the big opportunity. Had they appointed a seasoned top manager, i don't think they would be going for the chop given this is the first bad spell. Probably just panicking Monk isn't cut out for the job given he just carried on the good work which was set up by previous regimes so he didn't really have much to do. Now pressure is on him to change things and come up with different ideas etc, he's looking pretty clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I really don't think it's as harsh as some people are making out, if you've watched them recently they are a complete mess. Think he's lost the players and the fans at this point, so fair play if they want to make a change in order to try and avoid relegation. I don't get this though, surely even the best managers are capable of a couple of bad months? It doesn't make any sense to judge things on such a short-term basis. The season is only 15 games old and for a lot of it people were praising Swansea to the rafters. Guess fair enough if they believe they're going down and they think a short term boost is worth sacrificing their manager for. But it doesn't make it right, or logical. I think it's because it's a lot more than just bad results, some really poor performances for a while now along with very questionable decision making from Monk. Weren't the board unhappy in the summer as they wanted someone more experienced in as an assistant but he wouldn't have it? Break might do him good anyway he's aged so much recently, looks white as a ghost with huge bags under his eyes everytime you see him now. He'll come out of as being treat harsh and with a decent reputation too. Aye, has looked in interviews like he's struggling to handle it for a few weeks now. Seems a completely different man to a few months ago. If his head's completely gone, with no signs of snapping out of it extremely soon, then sadly he has to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 To sack a good young manager who has done really well for a run of poor form smacks of sacking for sacking sake. Sack if he is taking the club in the wrong direction developmentally, football philosophy, recruitment etc. but for a run of bad form? When they were beating Arsenal and playing superb stuff he was the dogs bollocks. Mind, I say this not seeing every game of theirs. Surely its not Pardew levels there though or Carver? I'd have him here in a heart beat, but I feel the enormity of this job would be too big a burden on his young shoulders and he would crack before too long. I doubt he is big name enough for our lot of wasters as well, even though they aren't exactly big name themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Monk was not playing a number of better players, and the team was suffering for it. That Swansea team is bloody decent and should not be struggling to that extent. It made no sense. Seems he had issues with some players, and was just being stubborn. Almost seems like he got carried away with the praise he was getting earlier on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Monk's not very likeable. Always blaming the refs etc. Hope he gets the sack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 So glad that Sunderland missed out on Moyes, Rodgers and now Monk. All three would have been decent appointments for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 It's a shame they're sacking him. I thought he had done a fine job last year, especially after the loss of Bony. There are a lot of quality managers out there, though. Swansea are spoilt for choice, the lucky bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 We could really do with Swansea continuing to be awful so if they do fire him I hope his replacement is someone crap. A Di Canio style of disasterous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I generally agree with Ian's feeling that a manager should be able to survive a poor run off the back of some success. However, the value of being in the Premier League these days and the danger of relegation makes it more understandable to me. I still don't get why US sports' owners act like this when their money is guaranteed and there are rewards for a poor season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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