Sima Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 dun on video evindens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Buzzing for tomorrow. 3 of the 4 teams I haven't seen in Japan, Ivorians, or Uruguay are playing plus England factor. Like the first round all over again Very exciting slate of matches tomorrow. I'll be rooting for the Greeks for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Buzzing for tomorrow. 3 of the 4 teams I haven't seen in Japan, Ivorians, or Uruguay are playing plus England factor. Like the first round all over again Very exciting slate of matches tomorrow. I'll be rooting for the Greeks for once. Could (probably won't) be a good game since both teams need the win to stand a chance of going through albeit I wouldn't be surprised if Greece take a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 It can't be just me who's sick of these constant "updates from the England camp"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Absolute turboshite like that is what gives African football a bad name, and will continue to enforce stereotypes. Truly embarrassing performance. African football will always be held back by weak domestic leagues and non-existent development programs. How many of these countries actually develop their own players? Far too much reliance on dual nationals and foreign-born players. Almost entirely the result of structural inequalities and history, mind. And entirely unreasonable to expect these otherwise impoverished countries to pour resources into developing domestic football programs too. I don't think it's all development. Most of those players are playing regularly for decent European sides. They've been developed in France, England etc. They should be familiar with organized football. They just don't seem to give a s***. Maybe some of that is related to the support or resources they get from their FA...hiring inept managers. Who knows. The Newcastle of world football then basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 It can't be just me who's sick of these constant "updates from the England camp"? WHERE'S WAZZA GONNA PLAY??!?!1?!1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I've said this before, but the continental distribution is not meant to be based purely on skill. If that was the case we'd give one slot to Mexico, one slot for Asia and Africa to fight over, and everything else to Europe and South America. While skill does play apart, the idea is to make the competition representative of all of the world's football cultures and to increase the quality of football in places like Asia and Africa by giving them more exposure on the big stage. This seems to be working pretty well for Asia at least. I think the distribution is fine as it is. Mexico who barely got in. (Don't disagree with your point, though.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Turned it off, what happened? Someone GIF it https://vine.co/v/MTWU20wtAQd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Fire up Uruguay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Buzzing for tomorrow. 3 of the 4 teams I haven't seen in Japan, Ivorians, or Uruguay are playing plus England factor. Like the first round all over again I'm expecting to enjoy Colombia-Ivory Coast greatly and of course England-Uruguay should be great too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Turned it off, what happened? Someone GIF it https://vine.co/v/MTWU20wtAQd An odd thing to do for someone who apparently doesn't care about anything other than the dollar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://lh4.ggpht.com/-qYz1c5CG68g/U6Hy2iE8WaI/AAAAAAAAD4g/fuiTLkBMrxg/h720/6546541.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://lh4.ggpht.com/-qYz1c5CG68g/U6Hy2iE8WaI/AAAAAAAAD4g/fuiTLkBMrxg/h720/6546541.gif Man, that's tough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 textbook save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 What a disgrace. Just disgusting. Tbf, Cameroon are terrible and I never had any hope for them. I picked them to finish last in their group. Their football is falling apart and they've failed to qualify for the last two ACNs. The last one they were vanquished by a Cape Verde team that simply outclassed them. Easily the worst team that qualified. Of course, in typical African style they've managed to go out in the most juvenile and amateur way possible. The whole world is laughing at us once again. Song and BAE are meant to be two of their most experienced and top level-seasoned players as well. Still, we have four teams left with the opportunity to do something. CIV should really qualify. Ghana's group will be wide open until the last day if Portugal beat the Us. Nigeria were very poor in the first match, but nothing has changed, it was always operation "Defeat Bosnia". Everyone in Algeria's group is underwhelming. I'll wait for my eulogy speech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Absolute turboshite like that is what gives African football a bad name, and will continue to enforce stereotypes. Truly embarrassing performance. African football will always be held back by weak domestic leagues and non-existent development programs. How many of these countries actually develop their own players? Far too much reliance on dual nationals and foreign-born players. Almost entirely the result of structural inequalities and history, mind. And entirely unreasonable to expect these otherwise impoverished countries to pour resources into developing domestic football programs too. Please don't patronise. Africa is held back by sheer incompetence at all levels, in both football, politics, and economics. It isn't that difficult to put a football team together. We don't even work to refine or grow our players, yet they carve careers out for themselves all over Europe. The players are there by birthright. All that is needed is to provide the team with adequate care , technical advice, and payment. Even this is too difficult. Of course colonial mentality reigns supreme as well. Notice Cameroon had some German on a retirement tour stealing their money, because everything white is automatically better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://lineupbuilder.com/2014/custom/?sk=39d3 Threw together a Yugoslavia team, not really practical because I forced a way to put Pjanić, Modrić, and Rakitić in one team. The bench if it's a 23-man squad. Samir Handanović Pletikosa Vedran Ćorluka Dejan Lovren Bojan Jokić Darijo Srna Mateo Kovačić Lazar Marković Miralem Sulejmani Josip Iličić Filip Đuričić Stevan Jovetić Edin Džeko Jelavić, Kranjčar, and Vučinić were the only one's of note I couldn't really fit. Anyone I'm missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Dusan Tadic Adem Ljajic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Absolute turboshite like that is what gives African football a bad name, and will continue to enforce stereotypes. Truly embarrassing performance. African football will always be held back by weak domestic leagues and non-existent development programs. How many of these countries actually develop their own players? Far too much reliance on dual nationals and foreign-born players. Almost entirely the result of structural inequalities and history, mind. And entirely unreasonable to expect these otherwise impoverished countries to pour resources into developing domestic football programs too. Please don't patronise. Africa is held back by sheer incompetence at all levels, in both football, politics, and economics. It isn't that difficult to put a football team together. We don't even work to refine or grow our players, yet they carve careers out for themselves all over Europe. The players are there by birthright. All that is needed is to provide the team with adequate care , technical advice, and payment. Even this is too difficult. Of course colonial mentality reigns supreme as well. Notice Cameroon had some German on a retirement tour stealing their money, because everything white is automatically better. I wasn't trying to be patronizing, and I think we're making roughly the same arguments. I'm not trying to paint a picture of African dependency, "blame the colonizers for everything and ignore African agency," but I don't think it's incorrect to suggest that deficiencies in African domestic leagues and development programs have a lot to do with structural inequalities, the same disadvantages that plague African states as a whole. That's not the singular cause of the problem but I think it contributes. I'm not saying African footballers aren't talented. They quite clearly are, or else they wouldn't be carving out careers for themselves in Europe. There's just little in the way of harnessing that talent into a coherent national playing structure. It's not hard to put together a team of highly-talented players, but it is difficult to get them to play as a collective unit. That's not an African-exclusive problem either. Look at any of the top international sides. Almost all of their players have passed through their countries' respective domestic development programs and had a national footballing ethos instilled in them from a very young age. It's why Spain won 3 major tournaments in a row, Germany is a perennial powerhouse, the Dutch have an endless supply of players, and the Brazilians are the best ever. Everyone else, African or otherwise, is playing catch-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Dusan Tadic Adem Ljajic Forgot about Ljajic didn't know Tadic. There's way too many attacking midfielders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 A modern Yugoslavia team would have the best of Croatia and Bosnia, with some Slovenians, Serbs, and Montenegrins sprinkled in. How would it do? Answers in the form of puns welcome. You're a bell. Grade A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Absolute turboshite like that is what gives African football a bad name, and will continue to enforce stereotypes. Truly embarrassing performance. African football will always be held back by weak domestic leagues and non-existent development programs. How many of these countries actually develop their own players? Far too much reliance on dual nationals and foreign-born players. Almost entirely the result of structural inequalities and history, mind. And entirely unreasonable to expect these otherwise impoverished countries to pour resources into developing domestic football programs too. Please don't patronise. Africa is held back by sheer incompetence at all levels, in both football, politics, and economics. It isn't that difficult to put a football team together. We don't even work to refine or grow our players, yet they carve careers out for themselves all over Europe. The players are there by birthright. All that is needed is to provide the team with adequate care , technical advice, and payment. Even this is too difficult. Of course colonial mentality reigns supreme as well. Notice Cameroon had some German on a retirement tour stealing their money, because everything white is automatically better. I wasn't trying to be patronizing, and I think we're making roughly the same arguments. I'm not trying to paint a picture of African dependency, "blame the colonizers for everything and ignore African agency," but I don't think it's incorrect to suggest that deficiencies in African domestic leagues and development programs have a lot to do with structural inequalities, the same disadvantages that plague African states as a whole. That's not the singular cause of the problem but I think it contributes. I'm not saying African footballers aren't talented. They quite clearly are, or else they wouldn't be carving out careers for themselves in Europe. There's just little in the way of harnessing that talent into a coherent national playing structure. It's not hard to put together a team of highly-talented players, but it is difficult to get them to play as a collective unit. That's not an African-exclusive problem either. Look at any of the top international sides. Almost all of their players have passed through their countries' respective domestic development programs and had a national footballing ethos instilled in them from a very young age. It's why Spain won 3 major tournaments in a row, Germany is a perennial powerhouse, the Dutch have an endless supply of players, and the Brazilians are the best ever. Everyone else, African or otherwise, is playing catch-up. African countries a bit like England, then...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://lh4.ggpht.com/-qYz1c5CG68g/U6Hy2iE8WaI/AAAAAAAAD4g/fuiTLkBMrxg/h720/6546541.gif Man, that's tough. well saved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Fair play to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://lh4.ggpht.com/-qYz1c5CG68g/U6Hy2iE8WaI/AAAAAAAAD4g/fuiTLkBMrxg/h720/6546541.gif Man, that's tough. well shaved FYP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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