The Prophet Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That French game really didn't do the Swiss justice. Decent side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Shakira, Jonathan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That French game really didn't do the Swiss justice. Decent side. I still thought they were good in that match tbh. Going forward at least anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What 'context' would you like? See the above post. As it's near impossible to separate the individual from the context of his team, role, competition they're playing in, etc I think it's risky business giving too much importance to these numbers when comparing them side by side. Statistical analysis has a role to play in football, but you've got to be comparing like for like otherwise the numbers are meaningless. A great example is comparing Demba Ba's pre-Cisse and post-Cisse scoring records with us. If you remove all context, it looks like Ba's form completely dropped. You need the context of knowing he was being played in a wide position to figure out what's really going on. Another example would be Jozy Altidore's scoring record in Holland. The numbers alone are meaningless without context. You can't compare Messi's all-Barca career to Ronaldo's career looking just at the numbers, which is why I'm focusing on their current talent, attitudes, performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Keep thinking he's saying 'Shagger' instead of Xhaka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Xhaka card, Xhaka card Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Reminds me of Vuckic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonarmy Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What 'context' would you like? See the above post. As it's near impossible to separate the individual from the context of his team, role, competition they're playing in, etc I think it's risky business giving too much importance to these numbers when comparing them side by side. Statistical analysis has a role to play in football, but you've got to be comparing like for like otherwise the numbers are meaningless. A great example is comparing Demba Ba's pre-Cisse and post-Cisse scoring records with us. If you remove all context, it looks like Ba's form completely dropped. You need the context of knowing he was being played in a wide position to figure out what's really going on. Another example would be Jozy Altidore's scoring record in Holland. The numbers alone are meaningless without context. You can't compare Messi's all-Barca career to Ronaldo's career looking just at the numbers, which is why I'm focusing on their current talent, attitudes, performances. Actually, those stats were derived in context, the article had a whole segment trying to separate Messi's numbers from the impact Barca has had on his numbers. Not to be a jerk, but try reading it during halftime, I'd be curious what you think afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Aye, but Ronaldo and Messi's roles rarely change and they still have little effect on their scoribg record at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Found a Brazillian spot to watch the games on Friday. Brazil vs Colombia. Hot mamis everywhere ... What school is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What in the fuck was that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What the fuck was that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Nee way Ricardo Rodriguez is 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Well that was the biggest fuck up of a finish I've seen in a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Found a Brazillian spot to watch the games on Friday. Brazil vs Colombia. Hot mamis everywhere ... What school is this? Can you really talk with your cousin loving? Stone, glasshouses and all that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Neuer would've snuffed that out. Sitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What 'context' would you like? See the above post. As it's near impossible to separate the individual from the context of his team, role, competition they're playing in, etc I think it's risky business giving too much importance to these numbers when comparing them side by side. Statistical analysis has a role to play in football, but you've got to be comparing like for like otherwise the numbers are meaningless. A great example is comparing Demba Ba's pre-Cisse and post-Cisse scoring records with us. If you remove all context, it looks like Ba's form completely dropped. You need the context of knowing he was being played in a wide position to figure out what's really going on. Another example would be Jozy Altidore's scoring record in Holland. The numbers alone are meaningless without context. You can't compare Messi's all-Barca career to Ronaldo's career looking just at the numbers, which is why I'm focusing on their current talent, attitudes, performances. Actually, those stats were derived in context, the article had a whole segment trying to separate Messi's numbers from the impact Barca has had on his numbers. Not to be a jerk, but try reading it during halftime, I'd be curious what you think afterwards. I'll take a look in a few, see what they came up with. But it'll have to be some work of genius to separate out the fact they've played for completely different clubs at different levels, in different countries for their entire careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That's when your mate takes the keeper out on FIFA and brings him back in. Dunno whether to chip it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Nice bit of sexism from Lawro. Hope some sad act complains and he has to get sent back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What 'context' would you like? See the above post. As it's near impossible to separate the individual from the context of his team, role, competition they're playing in, etc I think it's risky business giving too much importance to these numbers when comparing them side by side. Statistical analysis has a role to play in football, but you've got to be comparing like for like otherwise the numbers are meaningless. A great example is comparing Demba Ba's pre-Cisse and post-Cisse scoring records with us. If you remove all context, it looks like Ba's form completely dropped. You need the context of knowing he was being played in a wide position to figure out what's really going on. Another example would be Jozy Altidore's scoring record in Holland. The numbers alone are meaningless without context. You can't compare Messi's all-Barca career to Ronaldo's career looking just at the numbers, which is why I'm focusing on their current talent, attitudes, performances. Actually, those stats were derived in context, the article had a whole segment trying to separate Messi's numbers from the impact Barca has had on his numbers. Not to be a jerk, but try reading it during halftime, I'd be curious what you think afterwards. I'll take a look in a few, see what they came up with. But it'll have to be some work of genius to separate out the fact they've played for completely different clubs at different levels, in different countries for their entire careers. Barcelona and Madrid are in the same country for the time being at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Lawro will get canned for his should of had a skirt on comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Di Maria is infuriating at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Did my ears deceive me or did Jonathan Pierce just say that a player needs to 'put a skirt on' What the fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Nice bit of sexism from Lawro. Aye... Expect him to get into a little bother over that knowing the BBC... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That's when your mate takes the keeper out on FIFA and brings him back in. Dunno whether to chip it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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