Interpolic Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 If you scroll by the entire article and base your opinion on one of the 2 comments, aye. Fuck knas, I don't think basing it on passes makes any more sense to be honest - you could have Ben Arfa running with the ball for 10 seconds at one point in the match and the Southampton team tapping it around their defence for 10 seconds at another and this would completely distort the stats in Southampton's favour. The debate lies more with what you define as time in possession, there are a lot of scrappy passages of play where it's difficult to define who is really in possession of the ball and also other times when the ball is flying aimlessly through the air. For stoppages and time it takes to deliver a set piece it makes sense to stop the clock entirely until the ball is kicked again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Yeah, I get it... I need to stop asking daft questions in case I get a sensible answer. Just seems like these stats are mostly made up and broadcast as Gospel, yet nobody even knows the logic behind it, for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't think the stats are mostly made up, they're just defined differently. Agree that people are prone to accepting them without questioning the methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I really hate the bloke, but I have no real qualms with him about yesterday. I'm pissed off that we didn't win, when we clearly should have, but I put that more down to Santon and Remy tbh. We hoofed it, which I hate, but it did feel like it was working to me. When we do it and it clearly isn't working and it's the only thing we do is when I'll be pissed off with it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He's no longer proper shit, which is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 No complaints From me. Poor 20 minutes after the break but I think the players need to take some responsibility too. Remy was the difference between a win and a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 No complaints? He started with Shola "one decent half all season" Ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 No complaints? He started with Shola "one decent half all season" Ameobi. Shola hasn't been playing too bad and it was probably the right thing to do against them, to be a bit a bit more direct and physical. Sounds as though someone has a chip on their shoulder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Starting Shola is never the right thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Right now, that's a churlish thing to say imo. 99.9% of the time, I'd agree though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Dat fickleness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Dat fickleness. It's the arrogance reserve side? Osvaldo, Rodriguez and Lovren cost about £30m between them, not to mention the youth Southampton manage to regularly produce! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Dat fickleness. It's the arrogance reserve side? Osvaldo, Rodriguez and Lovren cost about £30m between them, not to mention the youth Southampton manage to regularly produce! Southampton are like a better version of Norwich, a smattering of expensive good players surrounded by club level workhorses. We've spent far less on players like Gouffran, Sissoko and Cabaye, but our pedigree throughout the squad is much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 They had about 5 starters out of their starting 11. That's quite a lot. Going 4-5-1 in the second half with Shola up front, doing nothing, was an absolute disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 We didn't win the game because of Remy's poor finishing and our poor defending. That doesn't excuse another display of negative tactics after taking the lead though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Dat fickleness. It's the arrogance reserve side? Osvaldo, Rodriguez and Lovren cost about £30m between them, not to mention the youth Southampton manage to regularly produce! Southampton are like a better version of Norwich, a smattering of expensive good players surrounded by club level workhorses. We've spent far less on players like Gouffran, Sissoko and Cabaye, but our pedigree throughout the squad is much better. Southampton have spent a fair bit and have the likes of Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Clyne (I know he was bought but was cheap) coming through. They are far from a bad side, as they have shown this season. A draw which we were more than deserving of and probably should have won is definitely not a bad result and Pardew can't be blamed for the chances we missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a fucking coward. Shit scared of Southampton reserves Dat fickleness. It's the arrogance reserve side? Osvaldo, Rodriguez and Lovren cost about £30m between them, not to mention the youth Southampton manage to regularly produce! Southampton are like a better version of Norwich, a smattering of expensive good players surrounded by club level workhorses. We've spent far less on players like Gouffran, Sissoko and Cabaye, but our pedigree throughout the squad is much better. Southampton have spent a fair bit and have the likes of Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Clyne (I know he was bought but was cheap) coming through. They are far from a bad side, as they have shown this season. A draw which we were more than deserving of and probably should have won is definitely not a bad result and Pardew can't be blamed for the chances we missed. But he can be blamed for how he set his side up for the 2nd half, which cost us 2 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Exactly! Love it how that fact just seems to be put to one side. Even though we have seen it happen in more games than I have fingers and toes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm pretty sure he changed to 4-2-3-1 not long after we scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Back to being a f***ing coward. s*** scared of Southampton reserves Dat fickleness. It's the arrogance reserve side? Osvaldo, Rodriguez and Lovren cost about £30m between them, not to mention the youth Southampton manage to regularly produce! Southampton are like a better version of Norwich, a smattering of expensive good players surrounded by club level workhorses. We've spent far less on players like Gouffran, Sissoko and Cabaye, but our pedigree throughout the squad is much better. Southampton have spent a fair bit and have the likes of Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Clyne (I know he was bought but was cheap) coming through. They are far from a bad side, as they have shown this season. A draw which we were more than deserving of and probably should have won is definitely not a bad result and Pardew can't be blamed for the chances we missed. But he can be blamed for how he set his side up for the 2nd half, which cost us 2 points. Give over man. We had a bad twenty minutes and after that it could have went either way. It was a good end to end game at the end and if remy scores we probably win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm pretty sure he changed to 4-2-3-1 not long after we scored. It was almost immediately after we scored, Gouffran went to the right with Sissoko central and Remy more on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Southampton are another of those good teams that are greater than the sum of their parts largely thanks to a clearly defined style of play. Unlike us. They mainly hoofed it yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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