Sean Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's obvious that, as the Secret Footballer column makes out, Pardew isn't here based on his managerial ability but because he owes money to Ashley. I want Pardew sacked 100%, but even then we're never going to be run properly as a football club, with ambition, until Ashley's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's obvious that, as the Secret Footballer column makes out, Pardew isn't here based on his managerial ability but because he owes money to Ashley. I want Pardew sacked 100%, but even then we're never going to be run properly as a football club, with ambition, until Ashley's gone. Care to paint us a picture of how this scenario may have played out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I know. Like unless he owed ca$hley 1 million 1 billion dollars why would he ever care Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's like being a loan shark and giving the guy who owes you thousands through gambling debts control of your multi million pound business. Pardew is here because Ashley or the people he trusts rate him. The bullshit gambling story really ought to have gone away by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm loathe to believe anyone who is too pussy to back what they say without the "secret footballer" mask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He might want to recoup several thousand pounds worth of debt? I'd imagine. Get a cheap manager at the same time, and one who'll always do as he says and front up for the bulllshit. It's not exactly the most ridiculous suggestion. Been a rumour since he took the job, and it's not like Ashely has a history of employing his mates is it? Employing someone he has got to know? Not ridiculous. Employing a manager because he might want to recoup several thousand pounds worth of debt and Pardews managerial ability has no bearing on the decision? Sorry, yes that is indeed an utterly ludicrous suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 This secret footballer nonsense has probably been created by the media so they can talk crap whenever they want and not be at risk of lawsuits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He might want to recoup several thousand pounds worth of debt? I'd imagine. Get a cheap manager at the same time, and one who'll always do as he says and front up for the bulllshit. It's not exactly the most ridiculous suggestion. Been a rumour since he took the job, and it's not like Ashely has a history of employing his mates is it? Employing someone he has got to know? Not ridiculous. Employing a manager because he might want to recoup several thousand pounds worth of debt and Pardews managerial ability has no bearing on the decision? Sorry, yes that is indeed an utterly ludicrous suggestion. fuck off man. So what was the Kinnear appointment? Pray tell? Based on his managerial ability was it? His nous? Take your head for a walk man, your condescending shit is extremely annoying. I hadn't realised Ashely made all his decisions based on the ability of the employee. Good to know No, it was clearly based on some drinking game. Fuck me man. Give your own head a shake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He might want to recoup several thousand pounds worth of debt? I'd imagine. Get a cheap manager at the same time, and one who'll always do as he says and front up for the bulllshit. It's not exactly the most ridiculous suggestion. Been a rumour since he took the job, and it's not like Ashely has a history of employing his mates is it? Employing someone he has got to know? Not ridiculous. Employing a manager because he might want to recoup several thousand pounds worth of debt and Pardews managerial ability has no bearing on the decision? Sorry, yes that is indeed an utterly ludicrous suggestion. f*** off man. So what was the Kinnear appointment? Pray tell? Based on his managerial ability was it? His nous? Take your head for a walk man, your condescending s*** is extremely annoying. I hadn't realised Ashely made all his decisions based on the ability of the employee. Good to know No, it was clearly based on some drinking game. f*** me man. Give your own head a shake. Right so the Kinnear one was done in a pub, but when it's pardew it's all about the managerial ability. Escpeially with the record he had before us total and utter shit. Laughable Er, no, that was sarcasm regarding Kinnear. Of course there is more to his appointment than them having the odd drink together. Ashley clearly prioritises people he knows (to some extent over their actual qualifications for the role), and I said as much in my first reply to you. I just asked Sean to explain was why it was obvious Pardew was hired due to a gambling debt. Nothing more. Not sure why that got your knickers in a twist, but it would still be nice to hear some logic behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pardew would have done the same debt or no debt. It's not like he was a top manager getting offers from a host of top clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's obvious that, as the Secret Footballer column makes out, Pardew isn't here based on his managerial ability but because he owes money to Ashley. I want Pardew sacked 100%, but even then we're never going to be run properly as a football club, with ambition, until Ashley's gone. Care to paint us a picture of how this scenario may have played out? Maybe Pardew stole 100 pairs of Donnay socks from Sports Direct and owes Ashley loads of money. Like £4.50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't buy this debt stuff like, never have. Seems a ridiculous rumour that's gathered pace the longer it hasn't been denied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't buy this debt stuff like, never have. Seems a ridiculous rumour that's gathered pace the longer it hasn't been denied. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He was brought in because he's cheap and goes along with what Ashley does. I think the gambling debt thing is rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't buy this debt stuff like, never have. Seems a ridiculous rumour that's gathered pace the longer it hasn't been denied. Aye. Yeah. I can totally buy Pardew seducing him at a casino though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Santoon apologist tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Wasn't the rumour initially that he owed Llambias money (who is a casino owner), why is he still here? Were Mike and Pards having bets between themselves despite being in an establishment that to be fair to it does a bit of that betting stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 i'm not saying it's a definite, obviously but I'm just highlighting thats it not beyond the realms of possibility. total and utter shit. Laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 "Mike, I got carried away. I apologise profusely. I will call in every favour I have and get you your money ASAP. Here is the twenty quid I have in my pocket and the rest will follow as soon as I can possibly get it". "Put your facking money away, Alan - I don't want it. You have a special football managerial talent - I don't care what West Ham, Charlton and Southampton say - and that's what I truly want. Say you'll be mine, Alan. Say you'll be mine". "OK, Mike". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no? He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no? He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too. But Ashley has all he'll ever need to keep Pardew in line anyway, the fact that he has appointed and could fire him from an absolutely mint job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The main reason he keeps him is because he has no ambition to anything beyond what Pardew gives him for minimum wage ( in football terms) and that he doesn't really know any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no? He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too. Just how much of a debt has he racked up for Asley to 'have something over' him and force him to do his bidding? SanToon suggests 'several thousand pounds', but considering he's flush enough to drop £160,000 in a week just to get to nuzzle a Tiger, I suspect you might think it's more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pardew doesn't owe him money, it just one of those ridiculous rumours that develop and grow. Ashley is a cunt, he hired Llambias also a cunt, Vetere, Wise, Kinnear all cunts. The only decent bloke he hired was KK and he only did that because he was looking back at our best time as a team. He only hired Shearer out of desperation in trying to stay up. And so he hires another cunt in Pardew. It's just that, a cunt owns us and has surrounded himself in people as cuntish as himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pardew doesn't owe him money, it just one of those ridiculous rumours that develop and grow. Ashley is a cunt, he hired Llambias also a cunt, Vetere, Wise, Kinnear all cunts. The only decent bloke he hired was KK and he only did that because he was looking back at our best time as a team. He only hired Shearer out of desperation in trying to stay up. And so he hires another cunt in Pardew. It's just that, a cunt owns us and has surrounded himself in people as cuntish as himself. Perfectly summed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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