Unbelievable Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew? Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself? Wut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew? Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself? Came up ages ago. Even I said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Well why the fuck wasn't I Giggsed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I don't get that stat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I don't get that stat. Pardew with the worst GD of all our Premier league managers. Gullit+Souness+Roeder+Allardyce+Kinnear+Shearer+Hughton= -32 Pardew= -32 If that doesn't convince anyone, I dunno what will. A catalogue of 7 managers that were either failures or deemed as failures by the club providing the sum total of the same negative goal difference as 1 Alan Pardew. Risible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Correct me if I'm mistaken but unless we score against Cardiff we will have scored the same amount of league goals as Sunderland at St James' Park in potentially 8-9 months (next season IF we score then)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 What does that manager sum show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew? Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself? I don't think it's as damning as the sentence suggests when you first read it. It equates Pardew to those managers rather than exemplifying how he is worse. Gullit inherited a title challenging team. Souness too. The fact that they managed negative goal differences shames them more than pardew. Keegan Played 162 GD +148 Robson Played 188 GD +59 Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Alardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton.. Played 214 GD -32 Pardew Played 132 GD -32 I mean, clearly Pardew's record is awful, but given that goal difference should usually be positive, the shocking thing about that combined group is that they all managed to fail on a scale approaching Pardew's. None of them having lasted half as long as he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Correct me if I'm mistaken but unless we score against Cardiff we will have scored the same amount of goals as Sunderland at St James' Park in potentially 8-9 months (next season IF we score then)? We have scored 3 at SJP in 2014, so if we don't score against Cardiff, we will have scored the same amount of goals at Sunderland at SJP for at least 7 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 With 30 games to go (hopefully not) Pardew's goal difference is 180 goals lower than Keegan's.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Keegan Played 162 GD +148 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Also, Pardew's GD us now -33, ergo worse than that other lot combined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew? Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself? I don't think it's as damning as the sentence suggests when you first read it. It equates Pardew to those managers rather than exemplifying how he is worse. Gullit inherited a title challenging team. Souness too. The fact that they managed negative goal differences shames them more than pardew. Keegan Played 162 GD +148 Robson Played 188 GD +59 Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Alardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton.. Played 214 GD -32 Pardew Played 132 GD -32 I mean, clearly Pardew's record is awful, but given that goal difference should usually be positive, the shocking thing about that combined group is that they all managed to fail on a scale approaching Pardew's. None of them having lasted half as long as he has. Like everything, it can be spun both ways. I prefer to see it as a manager that, on his own, has the same cumulative goal difference as 7 managers that either failed, or were seen to have failed by Ashley. Failed and were sacked, not failed and were told to carry on being shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Keegan Played 162 GD +148 Pardew Played 132 GD -32 Shiiiiit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Alan Pardew has managed #NUFC for seven derbies. Chris Hughton for one. Both have scored 5 goals against #SAFC Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Staggering these. Tempted to start a "Pardew's Unwanted Records" thread to complement his Official Excuses thread, just so there is somewhere else to point people to who say "Pardew is doing an alright job". Three Pardew threads would sadden me though. One is too many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Correct me if I'm mistaken but unless we score against Cardiff we will have scored the same amount of goals as Sunderland at St James' Park in potentially 8-9 months (next season IF we score then)? We have scored 3 at SJP in 2014, so if we don't score against Cardiff, we will have scored the same amount of goals at Sunderland at SJP for at least 7 months. Skewed slightly by the summer break but still incredibly poor, just another incredulously shit statistic to add to the ever growing pile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Alan Pardew has managed #NUFC for seven derbies. Chris Hughton for one. Both have scored 5 goals against #SAFC Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Staggering these. Tempted to start a "Pardew's Unwanted Records" thread to complement his Official Excuses thread, just so there is somewhere else to point people to who say "Pardew is doing an alright job". Three Pardew threads would sadden me though. One is too many. OP should just be THE LIST On another note it's disgusting that one more season under this fraud and he'll have been here longer than Keegan was! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Alan Pardew has managed #NUFC for seven derbies. Chris Hughton for one. Both have scored 5 goals against #SAFC Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Staggering these. Tempted to start a "Pardew's Unwanted Records" thread to complement his Official Excuses thread, just so there is somewhere else to point people to who say "Pardew is doing an alright job". Three Pardew threads would sadden me though. One is too many. Good idea. It would be great if they were all added to the opening post as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Alan Pardew has managed #NUFC for seven derbies. Chris Hughton for one. Both have scored 5 goals against #SAFC Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Staggering these. Tempted to start a "Pardew's Unwanted Records" thread to complement his Official Excuses thread, just so there is somewhere else to point people to who say "Pardew is doing an alright job". Three Pardew threads would sadden me though. One is too many. was gonna suggest this actually, however i’d have an OP with the good things he’s done for a bit of honest balance and see where it goes the win at OT springs to mind, and er…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Alan Pardew has managed #NUFC for seven derbies. Chris Hughton for one. Both have scored 5 goals against #SAFC Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11). Staggering these. Tempted to start a "Pardew's Unwanted Records" thread to complement his Official Excuses thread, just so there is somewhere else to point people to who say "Pardew is doing an alright job". Three Pardew threads would sadden me though. One is too many. Would make a good blog as well to be honest. More ammo for the Mag and local media Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Just so long as we can all agree that those that wanted him out ages ago know infinitely more about football than those that didn't. That's all that matters. Yeah, I'm fine with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I was going to do some sort of piktochart but struggled with their site. All my shite is shared here if anyone else wants to have a go at cramming it all in a single .jpg https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ABHoLnILBY-xDD3VTPp4wLWAQofNLWmSv--V5aARcvM/edit#slide=id.p13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Premiership table since turn of the year would be "interesting" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Premiership table since turn of the year would be "interesting" Won one more than cardiff on that front so the scoring is the worst ting since then. Bottom of the form league since march though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Premiership table since turn of the year would be "interesting" Won one more than cardiff on that front so the scoring is the worst ting since then. Bottom of the form league since march though. Will be "bottom" by the end of the season then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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