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I can't sympathise with anyone who didn't want him gone after Southampton away last season. Completely dominated by a newly promoted side following two dismal home defeats to West Ham and Swansea.

 

He has been given a preposterous amount of credit for 11/12, a season only worth watching for about six or seven games. Nothing there any better then when Fat Sam finished in a European place at Bolton.

 

We'd played 37 games with a slim chance of still finishing 3rd. Pardew earned himself praise and a bit of time imo. Time which has elapsed long ago.

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Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11).

 

Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew?

 

Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself?

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Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11).

Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew?

 

Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself?

 

Wut :lol:

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Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11).

 

Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew?

 

Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself?

 

Came up ages ago. Even I said it.

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I don't get that stat. ???

 

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Pardew with the worst GD of all our Premier league managers.

 

 

 

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Gullit+Souness+Roeder+Allardyce+Kinnear+Shearer+Hughton= -32

Pardew= -32

 

If that doesn't convince anyone, I dunno what will. A catalogue of 7 managers that were either failures or deemed as failures by the club providing the sum total of the same negative goal difference as 1 Alan Pardew. Risible.

 

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Correct me if I'm mistaken but unless we score against Cardiff we will have scored the same amount of league goals as Sunderland at St James' Park in potentially 8-9 months (next season IF we score then)?

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Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11).

 

Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew?

 

Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself?

 

I don't think it's as damning as the sentence suggests when you first read it.  It equates Pardew to those managers rather than exemplifying how he is worse.  Gullit inherited a title challenging team.  Souness too.  The fact that they managed negative goal differences shames them more than pardew.

 

Keegan

Played 162

GD +148

 

Robson

Played 188

GD +59

 

Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Alardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton..

Played 214

GD -32

 

Pardew

Played 132

GD -32

 

I mean, clearly Pardew's record is awful, but given that goal difference should usually be positive, the shocking thing about that combined group is that they all managed to fail on a scale approaching Pardew's. None of them having lasted half as long as he has.

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Correct me if I'm mistaken but unless we score against Cardiff we will have scored the same amount of goals as Sunderland at St James' Park in potentially 8-9 months (next season IF we score then)?

 

We have scored 3 at SJP in 2014, so if we don't score against Cardiff, we will have scored the same amount of goals at Sunderland at SJP for at least 7 months.

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Pardew has conceded as many goals to Sunderland as Newcastle Manager as Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (11).

 

Why do you keep ignoring the cumulative goal difference of Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton combined equating to exactly the same (-32) as Pardew?

 

Am I honestly the only person that thinks that that's just staggering considering all of those managers were either deemed failures by us, Shepherd or Ashley himself?

 

I don't think it's as damning as the sentence suggests when you first read it.  It equates Pardew to those managers rather than exemplifying how he is worse.  Gullit inherited a title challenging team.  Souness too.  The fact that they managed negative goal differences shames them more than pardew.

 

Keegan

Played 162

GD +148

 

Robson

Played 188

GD +59

 

Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Alardyce, Kinnear, Shearer and Hughton..

Played 214

GD -32

 

Pardew

Played 132

GD -32

 

I mean, clearly Pardew's record is awful, but given that goal difference should usually be positive, the shocking thing about that combined group is that they all managed to fail on a scale approaching Pardew's. None of them having lasted half as long as he has.

 

Like everything, it can be spun both ways. I prefer to see it as a manager that, on his own, has the same cumulative goal difference as 7 managers that either failed, or were seen to have failed by Ashley. Failed and were sacked, not failed and were told to carry on being shit.

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