Kaizero Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Ben said: I still think if that pen was at the other end Man Utd get it  It's weird how I on one level feel desperate to agree with you, yet on another feel like it's been a long time since the days Man Utd were a club that were given a disproportionate amount of special treatment compared to other clubs.  Feels like we all just still suffer the after effects of our collective Fergie-Time induced PTSD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Froggy said:  It was the correct decision.  Ashley Young deserves it as well. I've been seeing that dive from him for 15 years.  Never a pen, and if it was then Maguire should have had two at the other end.  Good game. Fair result.   I'd give Young a 6.1 on that dive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I don't really think that was a penalty, but also once it's been given it has to stand. It's an absolute shambles that VAR goes in and changes it; there are two clear shirt pulls on Young. It's not 'clear and obvious' neither, as the ref needs loads of time to decide, and he's not even given the best angles to support his initial decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Just now, Nobody said: I don't really think that was a penalty, but also once it's been given it has to stand. It's an absolute shambles that VAR goes in and changes it; there are two clear shirt pulls on Young. It's not 'clear and obvious' neither, as the ref needs loads of time to decide, and he's not even given the best angles to support his initial decision.  They did pull his shirt but unless you are the incredible hulk you don't lift him 3 feet off the ground like he was sent.    edit: I guess that is the crux of it. Was the pen given because his shirt was pulled or because he was thrust airbourne? Edited February 22 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, Nobody said: I don't really think that was a penalty, but also once it's been given it has to stand. It's an absolute shambles that VAR goes in and changes it; there are two clear shirt pulls on Young. It's not 'clear and obvious' neither, as the ref needs loads of time to decide, and he's not even given the best angles to support his initial decision.  They inherently favour the so called top clubs. They are sycophants.  At their ground last year this wasn't even reviewed by VAR and was just swept under the carpet. A few days later they them said VAR was right not to intervene!  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Young is a cheating git but the referee had a clear view of it in real time and it shouldn’t have been overturned no matter how bad the dive was.  No idea how low the high bar for overturning a decision now is. Remember when Longstaff nearly exchanged shirts at Wolves 2 or 3 years ago and it was deemed fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 26 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Young is a cheating git but the referee had a clear view of it in real time and it shouldn’t have been overturned no matter how bad the dive was.  No idea how low the high bar for overturning a decision now is. Remember when Longstaff nearly exchanged shirts at Wolves 2 or 3 years ago and it was deemed fair.   That would indicate it was him flying though the air, not the shirt pull. Look I would have been more than happy with as penalty but that was a dive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, KaKa said: They inherently favour the so called top clubs. They are sycophants.  Like Joelinton's clear handball against Spurs for Gordon's equaliser? Spurs are one of the "cartel clubs" right? Wasn't there a handball from Livramento in the same game as well? They were very easy decisions to give to Spurs if they were favouring them, but they weren't. Obviously.  Everyone gets decisions for and against them. There's no bias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Nobody said: I don't really think that was a penalty, but also once it's been given it has to stand. It's an absolute shambles that VAR goes in and changes it; there are two clear shirt pulls on Young. It's not 'clear and obvious' neither, as the ref needs loads of time to decide, and he's not even given the best angles to support his initial decision.  It was never a pen, so I was buzzing that they didn't give it. I was shocked it was overturned though.  Young only has himself to blame as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Froggy said:  Like Joelinton's clear handball against Spurs for Gordon's equaliser? Spurs are one of the "cartel clubs" right? Wasn't there a handball from Livramento in the same game as well? They were very easy decisions to give to Spurs if they were favouring them, but they weren't. Obviously.  Everyone gets decisions for and against them. There's no bias.  I'm I think pretty fair on handball decisions and joelinton's wasn't handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: I'm I think pretty fair on handball decisions and joelinton's wasn't handball.  Regardless of whether it was or not, my point is that it could easily be given if there was any favouritism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, Froggy said:  Like Joelinton's clear handball against Spurs for Gordon's equaliser? Spurs are one of the "cartel clubs" right? Wasn't there a handball from Livramento in the same game as well? They were very easy decisions to give to Spurs if they were favouring them, but they weren't. Obviously.  Everyone gets decisions for and against them. There's no bias.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Bruno Fernandes is way too good for Man Utd. He should sign for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) If anything, you could argue that the controversy over the Joelinton ball to hand was manufactured precisely because it was against one of the 'big 6' clubs. No one in their right mind thought that was a handball.  The controversy doesn't even need to be help those clubs, it can be to drive the conversation which = £, but the end result still looks more or less the same. Edited February 23 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 There is an unconscious bias towards at least a pair of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 If they are making another 200 redundancies ontop of the 250 thats already gone they must be in serious shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: If anything, you could argue that the controversy over the Joelinton ball to hand was manufactured precisely because it was against one of the 'big 6' clubs. No one in their right mind thought that was a handball.  The controversy doesn't even need to be help those clubs, it can be to drive the conversation which = £, but the end result still looks more or less the same.  You (not you) could argue anything if you're paranoid enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 31 minutes ago, Froggy said: Â You (not you) could argue anything if you're paranoid enough. You could. I don't think the big 6 getting favourable treatment is a widespread opinion for lack of evidence though, at the very least the discussion around decisions is ramped up when it involves those clubs and has the same outcome as if it were to deliberately put pressure on officials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 hours ago, Fak said: Bruno Fernandes is way too good for Man Utd. He should sign for us. No thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 14 points clear of these cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Limited menu at Chez Rat   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Has he thought about getting everyone employed by the club to email Elon Musk with what they've achieved in the last week? Then just bin anyone who doesn't give a good enough response or doesn't reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 That’s Trump-esque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 He actively hates people doesn't he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Pixelphish said: He actively hates poor people doesn't he. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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