South-Cheshire-Toon Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 I picked this up on Tinterweb yesterday, as wanted to know more about Ashworths demise - quite interesting listen/watch - makes some valid points about being bad to then get better, but interesting from @10.30 as he talks about INEOS 'putting the boot in' - as in - this is OUR club, we decide what's best - and as they aren't football versed it's causing all of this antagonism. Have a watch and let us know what you think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 3 hours ago, South-Cheshire-Toon said: I picked this up on Tinterweb yesterday, as wanted to know more about Ashworths demise - quite interesting listen/watch - makes some valid points about being bad to then get better, but interesting from @10.30 as he talks about INEOS 'putting the boot in' - as in - this is OUR club, we decide what's best - and as they aren't football versed it's causing all of this antagonism. Have a watch and let us know what you think. Decent watch considering I don't normally watch other clubs content 👍 Tbf his take seems based, very much, on basic common sense as much as any Intel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cronky Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 20 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: Decent watch considering I don't normally watch other clubs content 👍 Tbf his take seems based, very much, on basic common sense as much as any Intel. Agreed, it was a good watch. The most striking comment he made came at the end - Ineos don't know what they're doing. The whole set-up at the club strikes me as dysfunctional. The majority owners wanted investment from Ineos, but didn't want to lose control of the club because it's a money-spinner for them. Ratcliffe came to a compromise whereby he'd take a minority stake but supposedly have control over the football side. I think that puts Ratcliffe in a vulnerable position, because he'll have responsibility without ultimate power, but he decided to go along with it because of the attraction, as a fan, of being able to play Football Manager in real life. We had a similar problem with Freddie Shepherd as a fan in the Chairman's seat - the temptation to make decisions based on emotions rather than sound, professional sense. A lot now hinges on whether Ashworth the professional or Ratcliffe the amateur turn out to be right about Amorim. Right from the start, Amorim struck me as a flavour of the month signing and the early signs are that he's struggling to cope. My money is on Ashworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 2 minutes ago, Cronky said: Agreed, it was a good watch. The most striking comment he made came at the end - Ineos don't know what they're doing. The whole set-up at the club strikes me as dysfunctional. The majority owners wanted investment from Ineos, but didn't want to lose control of the club because it's a money-spinner for them. Ratcliffe came to a compromise whereby he'd take a minority stake but supposedly have control over the football side. I think that puts Ratcliffe in a vulnerable position, because he'll have responsibility without ultimate power, but he decided to go along with it because of the attraction, as a fan, of being able to play Football Manager in real life. We had a similar problem with Freddie Shepherd as a fan in the Chairman's seat - the temptation to make decisions based on emotions rather than sound, professional sense. A lot now hinges on whether Ashworth the professional or Ratcliffe the amateur turn out to be right about Amorim. Right from the start, Amorim struck me as a flavour of the month signing and the early signs are that he's struggling to cope. My money is on Ashworth. Exactly how I said it would pan out. Didn't think it would be this quick though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 Manchester United boss Ruben Amorim says his players are "too anxious, too afraid" and that his team's poor form has taken its toll on him. Once more unto the breach, my dear friends. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: Manchester United boss Ruben Amorim says his players are "too anxious, too afraid" and that his team's poor form has taken its toll on him. Once more unto the breach, my dear friends. 😂 I just can't believe the barrage of negative messages that this guy has been sending out ever since his arrival. It can't be helping his team. Perhaps it's him who is 'too anxious, too afraid'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 Just now, Cronky said: I just can't believe the barrage of negative messages that this guy has been sending out ever since his arrival. It can't be helping his team. Perhaps it's him who is 'too anxious, too afraid'? Job is far too big for him. He's petrified of whst Liverpool will do to his team today, and for good reason. Play like they did agaisnt us and it'll be 7 or 8. Liverpool will want to crush them, and have the finishing to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 I think Man United will be absolutely demolished today like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 6 minutes ago, Heron said: I think Man United will be absolutely demolished today like. I hope so. Really looking forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 It'll get postponed I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 It'll go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 It'll either get postponed I think or it'll go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 Aye, looks like this is getting postponed. Do Liverpool council not have gritters? Twice they have postponed games in the last few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 Just now, David Edgar said: It'll either get postponed I think or it'll go ahead. Hmmm i think it'll go ahead, or possibly get postponed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 Just now, Stifler said: Aye, looks like this is getting postponed. Do Liverpool council not have gritters? Twice they have postponed games in the last few weeks. Where you seeing this stiffy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 Just now, Pixelphish said: Where you seeing this stiffy. Nowhere, Liverpool have said it’s on as it stands. Final safety meeting at 12 to check on conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Where you seeing this stiffy. SSN seem to be indicating it. There is another meeting later to see if it goes ahead. Around the ground is covered in snow, clearly no attempts to grit it, or now flow it have been made. Edited January 5, 2025 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 (edited) Quote Following a safety meeting this morning, officials say the Premier League match between Liverpool and Manchester United will go ahead pending a further inspection. "A safety meeting was held this morning to assess the weather and travel conditions for today's fixture against Manchester United at Anfield," a Liverpool statement read. "At this stage the match is planned to go ahead as normal and every effort is being made to get the game on," it added. "A further safety meeting will take place again at midday to assess the latest conditions." This is from Sky News 20 mins ago. Edited January 5, 2025 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 1 minute ago, Pixelphish said: Where you seeing this stiffy. I'm quoting this just to remove the context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 2 minutes ago, David Edgar said: It'll either get postponed I think or it'll go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 It better go ahead. I want to sample the frozen tears of manure fans today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 For what it’s worth, the Everton game they postponed a few weeks back seemed to have better ground conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 It's not going to get any worse, surely? Game ON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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