Dave Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Get it signed, people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Get it signed, people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I urge everyone to email their MP. Tell them you expect them to attend the debate and that you expect them to be in favour of safe standing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 If people can’t be arsed, I’ll post the email I sent as a template. I’m no wordsmith but if it means that more people email in, then I couldn’t give a shit if people copy and paste. Importantly include your name, address and phone number when contacting an MP as they will not consider it if you do not. As a lifetime voter for you and labour for our local area, I’d like to get in touch with you about the subject above. I, like many other football fans, long for a return of a great atmosphere in football grounds, much like our counter parts in Germany and other areas. Obviously there is some controversy regarding standing at football matches since the Taylor report in the early 90s (after the Hillsbrough tragedy) however after the hearings last year, it seems that the fans have been exonerated and the blame lies solely with a chain of events. Anyway, I digress. The debate for safe standing is one which rages on, however seems to be just dismissed outright by our current government. So much so that football fans across the country have amassed enough signatures for a debate in Parliament because of the passion in wanting standing back at football. If you haven’t already heard about it’s positive effects, safety solution and what it means to fans, then look no further than Celtic who are trialling this. http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/support-safe-standing/ I’m sure you’d agree that after reading the facts, it makes sense. Football isn’t what it was in the 70s/80s and grounds are much safer. As a member of your constituency, I wish for you to speak on our behalf in a positive light for safe standing at football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 That first paragraph would go down great with our MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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11Tino11 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Sounds like this isn't going to happen anytime soon judging by the Government response. The Government believes that all-seater stadia are currently the best means to ensure the safety and security of fans at designated football matches in England and Wales. The Government thanks all the football supporters who made their views known through this petition. The Government believes that all-seater stadia are currently the best means to ensure the safety and security of fans at designated football matches in England and Wales, while continuing to work closely with the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and football authorities to consider advances in technology and data that may enhance the existing policy. A debate in Parliament on this issue has been tabled for 25 June, when the nuances and complexities of sports ground safety will be covered in more detail. Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Shite to what you all want, this is what you're getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Sounds like this isn't going to happen anytime soon judging by the Government response. The Government believes that all-seater stadia are currently the best means to ensure the safety and security of fans at designated football matches in England and Wales. The Government thanks all the football supporters who made their views known through this petition. The Government believes that all-seater stadia are currently the best means to ensure the safety and security of fans at designated football matches in England and Wales, while continuing to work closely with the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and football authorities to consider advances in technology and data that may enhance the existing policy. A debate in Parliament on this issue has been tabled for 25 June, when the nuances and complexities of sports ground safety will be covered in more detail. Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport I just read the same email. What a joke, they've not even proof read the content. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Is it just the scousers opposed to this? Because just about everyone I've spoke to about it is either in favour / doesn't care. It's now proven you can stand safely, so why isn't it happening? You don't have to stand if you don't want to but many do want to so let them get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Is it just the scousers opposed to this? Because just about everyone I've spoke to about it is either in favour / doesn't care. It's now proven you can stand safely, so why isn't it happening? You don't have to stand if you don't want to but many do want to so let them get on with it. Scousers aren’t even aposed to it. Spirit of Shankly conducted a poll which had 20k backing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Tino11 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I think one of the main Hillsborough campaigners/parents is set against it, believes there no such thing as safe standing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I'm certain a rail seated stadium would be safer than our current all seaters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Safe standing is surely much more safe than people standing in seated areas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Safe standing is surely much more safe than people standing in seated areas? Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walton17 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The objection to standing makes no sense. How many gigs do people stand at week in week out?! That’s an environment where people are full of drink and there is very few consequences Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The objection to standing makes no sense. How many gigs do people stand at week in week out?! That’s an environment where people are full of drink and there is very few consequences All football fans are scum, everyone knows that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Government now willing to look at this. A government source told the BBC: "Safety of supporters is paramount. However we recognise that technology and stadium design has evolved since the all-seater policy was introduced and the time is right to look at the issue. "The sports minister has not shut the door to fans keen on standing sections being introduced but it is important that all the evidence and viewpoints are considered extremely carefully." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 How come fans don't die at Celtic or Dortmund if safety is such an issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Government now willing to look at this. A government source told the BBC: "Safety of supporters is paramount. However we recognise that technology and stadium design has evolved since the all-seater policy was introduced and the time is right to look at the issue. "The sports minister has not shut the door to fans keen on standing sections being introduced but it is important that all the evidence and viewpoints are considered extremely carefully." I honestly don’t see what the problem is. It’s not like there is going to be no option for people to sit. Take SJP for example. Probably a conversion of 10000 to Safe standing would suffice leaving 40000 left for those not wanting to. It’s a simple case. Safe standing is safer than standing where there are seats only. End of. Baffles me these things take so long It’s like Glastonbury or standing gigs at Wembley & SJP don’t exist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Government now willing to look at this. A government source told the BBC: "*Safety of supporters is paramount. However we recognise that technology and stadium design has evolved since the all-seater policy was introduced and the time is right to look at the issue. "The sports minister has not shut the door to fans keen on standing sections being introduced but it is important that all the evidence and viewpoints are considered extremely carefully." *= Control Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Government now willing to look at this. A government source told the BBC: "*Safety of supporters is paramount. However we recognise that technology and stadium design has evolved since the all-seater policy was introduced and the time is right to look at the issue. "The sports minister has not shut the door to fans keen on standing sections being introduced but it is important that all the evidence and viewpoints are considered extremely carefully." *= Control *=Control of the working class plebs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 If there is a rail system in place and people have ample space between them, there should be no danger whatsoever, if anything seating is more dangerous. Fans are that accustomed to sitting/standing where they are allocated these days anyway I can’t see thousands of fans just congregating closely together to cause a crush or squeeze if that’s the concern. Standing is perfectly safe and was in the main for over a hundred years prior to Hillsborough when stadiums were less safe and fans were squeezed in like sardines. I have huge sympathy and respect for the Hillsborough campaign, but standing didn’t kill those fans, the policing of fans and how they reacted or didn’t when it got out of hand killed them. Creating pens and hoarding them in like they did was always going to lead to an issue eventually, I just can’t see such problems today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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