Ikon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Whatever happens next. Get players that can handle the ball and have legs and brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 We've spent forever chopping and changing formations to absolutely no avail with this squad, but I do feel like a switch to a flat back four probably should be on the cards. We were desperate in the wide defensive positions yesterday. It's a pity Dummett is still injured because he and Manquillo replacing Ritchie and Murphy (neither of whom are even defenders) would many a big difference imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Will he go 4 at the back? Thought 3 at the back yesterday left loads of space on the flanks for them to get in to. I'd ditch it but not sure he will. Dubs Manq Schar Fern Lewis Shelvey Willock Ritchie Joe ASM Wilson I'd play Ritchie in mid where he can protect Lewis. You can't play Lewis with just ASM infront of him, he'd be destroyed, but we do need to get him involved and up to speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Replace Ritchie with Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Replace Ritchie with Almiron. Good shout but don't think Ritchie is going anywhere with Howe trusting him. If anything He'd put Ritchie in for Lewis and Almiron in and Lewis missing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Dubravka Manquillo - Fernandez - Lascelles - Lewis Shelvey - Hayden Joelinton Almiron Saint-Max Wilson Far too many changes so it'll never happen, but: this gives us actual defenders at full-back; Fede beats Schar in a conventional CB position; Hayden brings tackling capability to CM; Miggy coming back in and being made useful is a no-brainer. Actually funny that a club with the capacity to put that team out is bottom of the division. That's why I think we're a bit of a unique case. We're not a bottom three team on paper by a long shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Personally, Ritchie will be replaced if he's not up to Howe's standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I like that one Yorkie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Has Schar ever played as a full back before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 So if we do bring in 6 new players which 6 are we dumping off the squad list? Going to be harsh on at least one player. Gillespie is the obvious first choice. In defence I'd dump Clark but I think we will dump Fernandez, could see Dummett getting left out Midfield - Hendrick? Maybe even Longstaff Strikers - Gayle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Send Woodman out on loan again. Hendrick, Krafth and Clark can all get in the sea. Wouldn't mind Ritchie going either. Think we'll have to keep Gayle as we need three strikers if a new one comes in. He'll leave at the end of the season. Would've sold Hayden as well, but he'll probably stay as he's injured. Would love it if one or both Longstaff's made it here, but I must admit I doubt it. God, we have a shite squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, toontownman said: So if we do bring in 6 new players which 6 are we dumping off the squad list? Going to be harsh on at least one player. Gillespie is the obvious first choice. In defence I'd dump Clark but I think we will dump Fernandez, could see Dummett getting left out Midfield - Hendrick? Maybe even Longstaff Strikers - Gayle Darlow is one I could see us offloading. Dubs as first choice with Woodman and 2nd and Gillespie 3rd. Clark for sure but as for the other defenders it could be any really. Would be harsh on Dummett but that's reality now. Hendrick is gone I reckon, he's barely featured this season. I think both Longstaffs could do with a loan move to a decent league/club. Gayle will interest any club in the Championship so I can imagine he'll go fairly soon once we get a striker in. Edited January 5, 2022 by Mazzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 who we ditching to make room in the squad? GK's - gillespie and maybe woodman out on loan again or Darlow away? defenders - clark, possibly dummett, krafth, maybe fernandez? Midfielders - hendrick Forwards - Gayle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1988 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Reckon one or both Longstaffs could be gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Sean Longstaff will likely be off Matty Longstaff out on loan again but to a team that actually plays him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Merged with existing thread (which was still on page 1 of the football forum ) @Cookie1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 05/01/2022 at 17:45, toontownman said: So if we do bring in 6 new players which 6 are we dumping off the squad list? U21s (like Botman) don’t have to be registered so it doesn’t have to be 6 for 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) If we are looking to bring in both Carlos and Botman, I think this is the setup or plan we may have: - Botman (tall, imposing prospect who is left-footed, comfortable on the ball, goes about doing his job and leading by example) - Diego Carlos (vocal, imposing, experienced player with a rough competitive edge. In contrast to the lack of leadership we currently have who meekly accept decisions. Complements Botman.) - Lascelles (current captain who needs to up his game. Okay with him fighting for his place or being a backup) - Schar (30. try to extend his contract for a yet or two, or keep him until end of season if he doesn't. Replace with new CB if he goes then as three new CBs in now is not a good idea.) - Clark (32, past it. Sell now to make space for Carlos' registration) - Fernandez (33 this Feb, keep then sell at end of season) - Dummett (30, been injured for some time. Consider selling at end of season) Edited January 8, 2022 by LRD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I hope we’re working towards being here at the end of the window in terms of best XI and shape: Dubravka Schär New New Trippier New Joelinton New New Saint-Maximin Wilson 3-4-2-1/3-4-3/5-4-1, whatever you want to call it. The direct backups would effectively be: Darlow Fernandez Lascelles Dummett Manquillo Longstaff Hayden Lewis Fraser Almiron Wood Krafth, Shelvey, Willock (almost forgot him he’s so useless atm), and Murphy as the extras, provided one of the signings is U21. If not, then we have to lose another CM or just not register one. I’d like that to be Shelvey, but it’s more likely to be Longstaff or Hayden. Move on Gillespie, Clark, Hendrick, Ritchie, and Gayle, by hook or by crook. Loan out Woodman and Shortstaff again. Still think we’d more likely go down than not, but we might put up a proper fight, and we’ll have started the clear out that should have been underway seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Going 3 at the back seems obvious but like @TRon mentioned I'm not sure Howe is interested for some reason. We need like 4-5 players to walk into the side really but I do think an attacking fullback and an ungodly centre mid would be enough to atleast get us functioning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Also this 'Startup' app is sexy as fuck. Not sure how Fraser would be tucking in but he cannot be worse than Shelvey. I know that is team is fucking terrible Edited January 16, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I wouldn't be moving Joelinton, he's doing great in his current role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Yorkie said: I wouldn't be moving Joelinton, he's doing great in his current role. I mean he would have to move if we go 3 at the back as it's a completely different formation. Anyway we've been playing Shelvey infront of the back 4 which seems daft to me, Joelinton offers much more protection and is far better on the ball. If we brought a CDM in then they would probably slot in there though, but the more I think of it and the more I see Joelinton the more I feel we really need creativity in the middle more than someone to break up play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 mobile CMs is a must - like I said yesterday - it’s killing us added to that the binning of Lascelles - even for FF in the short term then there’s the RW position - I hate Fraser my ideal scenario is to switch to a 4231 with Fofana and Kamara in CM - Martial type out wide - V der Beek in the middle all a pipe dream - we are down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 2 CM's and 2 CBs are a minimum we need. Edited January 16, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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