Wullie Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Obviously it isn't, but I do think if, like CKR, you're born and live your entire life in one place until well into adulthood, you've not got a massive claim to be a different nationality altogether, especially when only one of your parents is from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)? One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England? edit: whatever! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 As long as he has a family member from that country and the blood runs in his veins, it's his choice to be whatever he wants to me like. Dummett is Welsh if he identifies as Welsh, regardless of where he was born. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Such a mug yee like. No chance in hell Dummett "identifies" as Welsh. He hadn't even been to Wales until they called him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)? One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England? edit: whatever! If he does all them things then yeah, sure, he's actually shown that he wants to be Turkish and he's not just blagging it for the good of his career. But he won't. It's clear as fucken day he's just another cockney chancer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Such a mug yee like. No chance in hell Dummett "identifies" as Welsh. He hadn't even been to Wales until they called him up. Then he's English. I never said he's Welsh. I said if he identifies as Welsh he is. I don't know what he actually identifies as though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)? One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England? edit: whatever! If he does all them things then yeah, sure, he's actually shown that he wants to be Turkish and he's not just blagging it for the good of his career. But he won't. It's clear as fucken day he's just another cockney chancer. fucks sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Needs to start giving out free kebabs and haircuts before SEMTEX will change his mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Needs to start giving out free kebabs and haircuts before SEMTEX will change his mind. As if a Turk would give anything away for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Nationality is a fluid concept. It is possible to be English and Turkish at the same time. re: Colin - sure his background has made it easier for him to play abroad and in Turkey. It isn't the same as Derbyshire playing in Greece for example as Colin has some immediate Turkish heritage. But Arda Turan he is not. And even if he genuinely felt Turkish in his heart I doubt he would turn out for them if he had Delle Ali ability. As far as i'm aware. Iwobi is one of the first players eligible for England (with a great chance of being called up to NT at some point) who has decided to play for his nation of heritage. Having family that have played for Nigeria was probably a huge influence. I'll be interested to see if this trend develops over the coming years. It's fairly common for very good players of eligible for France to opt for other nations. But France has a "dodgier" relationship with immigrants/children of immigrants it seems and even then the cream tend to represent France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 fuck it. I've decided I'm going to identify as being Japanese. I don't have that precious Japanese blood, but my brother went there once so that should cover me. Not that I'm going anywhere near Japan like. Miles away and geet expensive. Please respect my decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Needs to start giving out free kebabs and haircuts before SEMTEX will change his mind. Nah, just has to show he wants it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Who cares FFS, imagine there's no countries, and no religion too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Emre Mor is signing for Dortmund. Kid is a fantastic ball hog. Worth a Youtube watch. Got a very Hatem-y way of running with the ball. Like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I hate this nationality bullshit. We lost Mix because of it. The sadness in myeyes. #teamsemtex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Emre Mor is signing for Dortmund. Kid is a fantastic ball hog. Worth a Youtube watch. Got a very Hatem-y way of running with the ball. Like it That's because he identifies as being Hatem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I hate this nationality bullshit. We lost Mix because of it. The sadness in myeyes. #teamsemtex If only we could give him back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I hate this nationality bullshit. We lost Mix because of it. The sadness in myeyes. #teamsemtex If only we could give him back I will fight you. I will lose that fight, but still. I will fight you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Who cares FFS, imagine there's no countries, and no religion too. Look at John Lennon over here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Flags and country borders are nonsense like, just creates so many wars and problems and prevents us advancing as a species. We are one. God I miss being a righteous self important 17 year old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Flags and country borders are nonsense like, just creates so many wars and problems and prevents us advancing as a species. We are one. God I miss being a righteous self important 17 year old. Just identify as one! As long as you've still got the blood of a righteous self important 17 year old that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 If you grew up in a home where you were geographically in a different country but your family still retained the culture of the country of your heritage then you have every right to feel like you're more Turkish than English for example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)? One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England? edit: whatever! If that's the case, Turkish parent and spent a bit of time living there I think he has every right to consider himself Turkish. Tbh even if he hadn't lived in Turkey, but was brought up with some Turkish cultural influences and the Turkish language I'd agree he could be considered Turkish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 He'd just be part English & part Turkish. You cant completely claim you're in no way affiliated with the country you were born in & grew up in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Bet his wiki page hits have taken a spike today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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