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Obviously it isn't, but I do think if, like CKR, you're born and live your entire life in one place until well into adulthood, you've not got a massive claim to be a different nationality altogether, especially when only one of your parents is from there.

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So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)?  One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England?

 

edit: whatever!  :laugh:

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As long as he has a family member from that country and the blood runs in his veins, it's his choice to be whatever he wants to me like.

 

Dummett is Welsh if he identifies as Welsh, regardless of where he was born.

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So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)?  One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England?

 

edit: whatever!  :laugh:

 

If he does all them things then yeah, sure, he's actually shown that he wants to be Turkish and he's not just blagging it for the good of his career.

 

But he won't. It's clear as fucken day he's just another cockney chancer.

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:anguish:

 

Such a mug yee like. No chance in hell Dummett "identifies" as Welsh. He hadn't even been to Wales until they called him up.

 

Then he's English. :lol: I never said he's Welsh. I said if he identifies as Welsh he is. I don't know what he actually identifies as though.

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So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)?  One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England?

 

edit: whatever!  :laugh:

 

If he does all them things then yeah, sure, he's actually shown that he wants to be Turkish and he's not just blagging it for the good of his career.

 

But he won't. It's clear as fucken day he's just another cockney chancer.

 

:lol: fucks sake

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Nationality is a fluid concept. It is possible to be English and Turkish at the same time. re: Colin - sure his background has made it easier for him to play abroad and in Turkey. It isn't the same as Derbyshire playing in Greece for example as Colin has some immediate Turkish heritage.

 

But Arda Turan he is not. And even if he genuinely felt Turkish in his heart I doubt he would turn out for them if he had Delle Ali ability.

 

As far as i'm aware. Iwobi is one of the first players eligible for England (with a great chance of being called up to NT at some point) who has decided to play for his nation of heritage. Having family that have played for Nigeria was probably a huge influence. I'll be interested to see if this trend develops over the coming years. It's fairly common for very good players of eligible for  France to opt for other nations. But France has a "dodgier" relationship with immigrants/children of immigrants it seems and even then the cream tend to represent France.

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fuck it.

 

I've decided I'm going to identify as being Japanese. I don't have that precious Japanese blood, but my brother went there once so that should cover me.

 

Not that I'm going anywhere near Japan like. Miles away and geet expensive.

 

Please respect my decision.

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Emre Mor is signing for Dortmund. Kid is a fantastic ball hog. Worth a Youtube watch.

 

Got a very Hatem-y way of running with the ball. Like it

 

That's because he identifies as being Hatem

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I hate this nationality bullshit. We lost Mix because of it. The sadness in myeyes.

 

#teamsemtex

 

If only we could give him back

 

I will fight you.

 

I will lose that fight, but still. I will fight you.

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Flags and country borders are nonsense like, just creates so many wars and problems and prevents us advancing as a species. We are one.

 

God I miss being a righteous self important 17 year old.

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Flags and country borders are nonsense like, just creates so many wars and problems and prevents us advancing as a species. We are one.

 

God I miss being a righteous self important 17 year old.

 

Just identify as one!

 

As long as you've still got the blood of a righteous self important 17 year old that is.

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If you grew up in a home where you were geographically in a different country but your family still retained the culture of the country of your heritage then you have every right to feel like you're more Turkish than English for example

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So what if, when he retires from football, he lives in Turkey for the rest of his life (longer than he lived the start of his life in England)?  One of his parents is from Turkey, and he says he sees himself as Turkish. But he'll be an Englishman living in Turkey according to you, simply because what? he was born in England?

 

edit: whatever!  :laugh:

If that's the case, Turkish parent and spent a bit of time living there I think he has every right to consider himself Turkish. Tbh even if he hadn't lived in Turkey, but was brought up with some Turkish cultural influences and the Turkish language I'd agree he could be considered Turkish.

 

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