Clément Grenier

[jdckelly]

Credit to the owner, he's certainly done well to breed such cynicism around the football club and every decision that is made.

 

We've clearly put a bid in, it's under what Lyon perceive to be his value. This seems to be par for the course for Newcastle. Start low and then work up so you end up paying under the first figure quoted. The snag we've hit here is, the player doesn't want to move mid-season, and he's a tad narcissistic.

 

The only real point of frustration here is that they didn't sound up their replacements in preparation of Cabaye potentially going. Talk of false bids and not wanting a players is a tad far fetched though.

I'd generally agree but at least in the past they had a tendency to leak a complete lie to SSN on deadline day. Now they're just being cheap

[Ronaldo]

Credit to the owner, he's certainly done well to breed such cynicism around the football club and every decision that is made.

 

We've clearly put a bid in, it's under what Lyon perceive to be his value. This seems to be par for the course for Newcastle. Start low and then work up so you end up paying under the first figure quoted. The snag we've hit here is, the player doesn't want to move mid-season, and he's a tad narcissistic.

 

The only real point of frustration here is that they didn't sound up their replacements in preparation of Cabaye potentially going. Talk of false bids and not wanting a players is a tad far fetched though.

 

Will you stop with this shit, man? We all know there's been artificial bids made in the past at the end of windows.

[Wilson]

Hardly far fetched to think if they really wanted a replacement, they would done some ground work (other than scouting) considering they'd apparently already agreed to let Cabaye go.

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

Credit to the owner, he's certainly done well to breed such cynicism around the football club and every decision that is made.

 

We've clearly put a bid in, it's under what Lyon perceive to be his value. This seems to be par for the course for Newcastle. Start low and then work up so you end up paying under the first figure quoted. The snag we've hit here is, the player doesn't want to move mid-season, and he's a tad narcissistic.

 

The only real point of frustration here is that they didn't sound up their replacements in preparation of Cabaye potentially going. Talk of false bids and not wanting a players is a tad far fetched though.

The bids may aswell be false if they're always under what the other club perceive to be the value.

 

I have no doubt that we placed a bid for Grenier, I don't think anyone doubts that, but we're not willing to pay what he's worth and probably never have been. If we cannot get him on the cheap then we'll not get him at all. Miss out on our number 1 target if we can get number 5 for cheaper, or maybe we'll wait another window or 3 before trying again?

 

 

[jdckelly]

Hardly far fetched to think if they really wanted a replacement, they would done some ground work (other than scouting) considering they'd apparently already agreed to let Cabaye go.

well we can't expect our transfer guru to work on two things at once thats just too much to expect

[BONTEMPI]

sounds like our crack negotiation team is proving its ability once again. Christ the only thing JFK's time here has shown is that Llambias was at least in some way competent, then we were cheap bastards but we did sign the occasional player and never leaked anything real at least on nufc end it was all from france, now he's shouting our targets from the roof tops and not actually signing anyone (loans don't count as proper signings in my book)

 

Llambias was never competent, just less of a fucknut than Joe.

[jdckelly]

sounds like our crack negotiation team is proving its ability once again. Christ the only thing JFK's time here has shown is that Llambias was at least in some way competent, then we were cheap bastards but we did sign the occasional player and never leaked anything real at least on nufc end it was all from france, now he's shouting our targets from the roof tops and not actually signing anyone (loans don't count as proper signings in my book)

 

Llambias was never competent, just less of a fucknut than Joe.

some way competent I said not fully competent. Then again JFK is making Graeme Souness's transfer strategy seem almost competent so its not a difficult standard to beat

[Wilson]

or maybe we'll wait another window or 3 before trying again?

 

Exactly this. We'll be back in for him in the summer.  Fuck the team for the rest of the season if we can get him for nearer to our own valuation then and save on wages in the process.

[Guest Nixon]

Credit to the owner, he's certainly done well to breed such cynicism around the football club and every decision that is made.

 

We've clearly put a bid in, it's under what Lyon perceive to be his value. This seems to be par for the course for Newcastle. Start low and then work up so you end up paying under the first figure quoted. The snag we've hit here is, the player doesn't want to move mid-season, and he's a tad narcissistic.

 

The only real point of frustration here is that they didn't sound up their replacements in preparation of Cabaye potentially going. Talk of false bids and not wanting a players is a tad far fetched though.

 

Will you stop with this s***, man? We all know there's been artificial bids made in the past at the end of windows.

At what point did I say we hadn't in the past? The bids for Ruiz were either fake or incredibly naive, either way they don't paint the club in the most positive light.

 

However I think the club realise this is an increasingly tight Premier league season and that we're far from guaranteed safety. Two injuries or suspensions in midfield and we're back the days of throwing players like Bigirimana in there (I know he's injured).

[matta]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

[Chizzletooth]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

[midds]

don't believe the Grenier bid is false at all. It's just big enough to hoodwink some fans into believing we have a semblance of ambition but it's always going to be too small to be seriously considered by Lyon.

 

It's a public feigning of ambition without any risk. 

[Shearergol]

Credit to the owner, he's certainly done well to breed such cynicism around the football club and every decision that is made.

 

We've clearly put a bid in, it's under what Lyon perceive to be his value. This seems to be par for the course for Newcastle. Start low and then work up so you end up paying under the first figure quoted. The snag we've hit here is, the player doesn't want to move mid-season, and he's a tad narcissistic.

 

The only real point of frustration here is that they didn't sound up their replacements in preparation of Cabaye potentially going. Talk of false bids and not wanting a players is a tad far fetched though.

 

Will you stop with this s***, man? We all know there's been artificial bids made in the past at the end of windows.

At what point did I say we hadn't in the past? The bids for Ruiz were either fake or incredibly naive, either way they don't paint the club in the most positive light.

 

However I think the club realise this is an increasingly tight Premier league season and that we're far from guaranteed safety. Two injuries or suspensions in midfield and we're back the days of throwing players like Bigirimana in there (I know he's injured).

 

What are you basing that on? All I can see is a complete lack of planning and urgency.

[Shearergol]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

[Chizzletooth]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

 

We're a decent premiership side selling players to Champions League contenders.

[Guest palnese]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

 

Yep. We're a nothing club.

[Shearergol]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

 

We're a decent premiership side selling players to Champions League contenders.

 

But why do we exist? To win things or to develop players for the teams which do win things?

[Stuy_O]

You can translate however you want but the fact is that yet again, we haven't done enough to bring the player in. As a club it's becoming idiosyncratic.

 

 

 

 

[jdckelly]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

bingo, he left a league winning side and champions league football to join us in a summer of chaos with our previous key players on their way out (nolan enrique barton), younger players and ones with a point to prove will see us as a nice middle ground between where they were and where they want to be sooner or later (ie the big boys)

[jdckelly]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

 

We're a decent premiership side selling players to Champions League contenders.

 

But why do we exist? To win things or to develop players for the teams which do win things?

that very question can be asked of a great deal of clubs not just us.

[Shearergol]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

 

We're a decent premiership side selling players to Champions League contenders.

 

But why do we exist? To win things or to develop players for the teams which do win things?

that very question can be asked of a great deal of clubs not just us.

 

Name me another premiership club deliberately trying to get knocked out of cups and avoid getting into Europe.

 

And yes, it can be said of loads of clubs. They're all in the lower divisions though. Even the likes of Hull and Palace attempt to win cup matches! They buy players to improve, not to sell on.

[Stuy_O]

Credit to the owner, he's certainly done well to breed such cynicism around the football club and every decision that is made.

 

We've clearly put a bid in, it's under what Lyon perceive to be his value. This seems to be par for the course for Newcastle. Start low and then work up so you end up paying under the first figure quoted. The snag we've hit here is, the player doesn't want to move mid-season, and he's a tad narcissistic.

 

The only real point of frustration here is that they didn't sound up their replacements in preparation of Cabaye potentially going. Talk of false bids and not wanting a players is a tad far fetched though.

 

Which is it then? The first part says everything.

 

If you're truly serious and determined to bring a player in, you go with an offer than represents the selling clubs valuation, unless of course its preposterous.

 

We don't though, we f*** about with lower offers or haggle over agent fee's. It's not because we don't want to be ripped off, its because we're adverse to spending full stop. There is always something that prevents the deal going through, whereas every other club on planet earth seems to get most of their deals done with no fuss whatsoever.

[henke]

We're what Wigan were.

[Chizzletooth]

Any player with any ambition should say no to us. It's that simple.

 

Not necessarily. We're a good stepping stone as Cabaye proved.

 

We may as well be a league one club selling players to the championship.

 

We're a decent premiership side selling players to Champions League contenders.

 

But why do we exist? To win things or to develop players for the teams which do win things?

that very question can be asked of a great deal of clubs not just us.

 

Name me another premiership club deliberately trying to get knocked out of cups and avoid getting into Europe.

 

And yes, it can be said of loads of clubs. They're all in the lower divisions though. Even the likes of Hull and Palace attempt to win cup matches! They buy players to improve, not to sell on.

 

Think one thing everyone agrees on is that we should make a better fist of the cups. It's our only shot, slim though it is. Won't stop us being a stepping stone for the likes of Cabaye though.

[Shearergol]

We're what Wigan were.

 

Minus the cup runs.