Robster Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Reefatoon on fire with the gif's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 WhoScored StatsZone Progress. Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most of the criticism is completely separate from league position TBF, which is fair enough I suppose. Yeah but if we are doing well in the league and you get a last minute winner and only a give a 'meh', you are hardly happy with the way things are going in the league. Results went our way this weekend with Everton and Southampton both dropping points and i think it's only natural to want to finish higher than them even if it doesn't make a huge difference. Absolutely clueless . If you can't get yourself excited and jubilant over a last minute goal, you should look elsewhere for your entertainment. Doesn't matter if you are bottom of the league in the conference or 9th in the premier league or even playing Sunday league football, a 90th minute winner is simply euphoric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I can't say I celebrated much at all. Another scraped victory that ultimately means nothing. Woo hoo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most of the criticism is completely separate from league position TBF, which is fair enough I suppose. Yeah but if we are doing well in the league and you get a last minute winner and only a give a 'meh', you are hardly happy with the way things are going in the league. Results went our way this weekend with Everton and Southampton both dropping points and i think it's only natural to want to finish higher than them even if it doesn't make a huge difference. Absolutely clueless . If you can't get yourself excited and jubilant over a last minute goal, you should look elsewhere for your entertainment. Doesn't matter if you are bottom of the league in the conference or 9th in the premier league or even playing Sunday league football, a 90th minute winner is simply euphoric. I'm not quite sure how you are in a position to tell people how they should or shouldnt feel Brett. As for your comment about the position in the league mattering. Some people prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than just where a name sits on a table. Being 8th is fine and probably just about right. But when there's absolutley nothing to look forward too in the short or long term, then what is to be happy or excited about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most of the criticism is completely separate from league position TBF, which is fair enough I suppose. Yeah but if we are doing well in the league and you get a last minute winner and only a give a 'meh', you are hardly happy with the way things are going in the league. Results went our way this weekend with Everton and Southampton both dropping points and i think it's only natural to want to finish higher than them even if it doesn't make a huge difference. Absolutely clueless . If you can't get yourself excited and jubilant over a last minute goal, you should look elsewhere for your entertainment. Doesn't matter if you are bottom of the league in the conference or 9th in the premier league or even playing Sunday league football, a 90th minute winner is simply euphoric. There are people who want to be entertained when watching football...others just look at the table and stats (Pardew-like) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most of the criticism is completely separate from league position TBF, which is fair enough I suppose. Yeah but if we are doing well in the league and you get a last minute winner and only a give a 'meh', you are hardly happy with the way things are going in the league. Results went our way this weekend with Everton and Southampton both dropping points and i think it's only natural to want to finish higher than them even if it doesn't make a huge difference. Absolutely clueless . If you can't get yourself excited and jubilant over a last minute goal, you should look elsewhere for your entertainment. Doesn't matter if you are bottom of the league in the conference or 9th in the premier league or even playing Sunday league football, a 90th minute winner is simply euphoric. http://i.imgur.com/xl0oZ7s.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most of the criticism is completely separate from league position TBF, which is fair enough I suppose. Yeah but if we are doing well in the league and you get a last minute winner and only a give a 'meh', you are hardly happy with the way things are going in the league. Results went our way this weekend with Everton and Southampton both dropping points and i think it's only natural to want to finish higher than them even if it doesn't make a huge difference. Absolutely clueless . If you can't get yourself excited and jubilant over a last minute goal, you should look elsewhere for your entertainment. Doesn't matter if you are bottom of the league in the conference or 9th in the premier league or even playing Sunday league football, a 90th minute winner is simply euphoric. but I think everyone got your message. You're alright with playing bad for 88 mins with the goal in the dying minutes...I am not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Come on, let's be fair, the majority of the second half we dominated the game and could've had a couple. The first half on the other hand was pretty damned depressing. I'm just pleased they showed a bit of passion and commitment and it did get the crowd going in the second half. The crowd definitely had a say in that win imo, encouraging if not demanding the team push forward. I know I certainly celebrated the goal like a wildman. That's what footballs all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Maybe next year we'll meet our target of 40 points by February and be able to give up on the season even earlier, we're getting more efficient all the time! Don't expect an answer to that one. Because that would mean actually addressing the genuine grievance of the fans on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think the majority of fans would have been delighted with a dour, grinding performance and a late winner if that kind of game was the exception, not the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most of the criticism is completely separate from league position TBF, which is fair enough I suppose. Yeah but if we are doing well in the league and you get a last minute winner and only a give a 'meh', you are hardly happy with the way things are going in the league. Results went our way this weekend with Everton and Southampton both dropping points and i think it's only natural to want to finish higher than them even if it doesn't make a huge difference. Absolutely clueless . If you can't get yourself excited and jubilant over a last minute goal, you should look elsewhere for your entertainment. Doesn't matter if you are bottom of the league in the conference or 9th in the premier league or even playing Sunday league football, a 90th minute winner is simply euphoric. http://i.imgur.com/xl0oZ7s.png It's absolutely amazing isn't it? Brett, what are your thoughts about the long term principles and style Pardew has brought to the side? So even when we do lose a top player, it doesn't affect them too much... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think Brett's just arguing that a late winner is a reason to celebrate in itself, regardless of the wider context. He must have some sort of point, otherwise all fans of mid or lower table sides would basically stop bothering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Come on, let's be fair, the majority of the second half we dominated the game and could've had a couple. The first half on the other hand was pretty damned depressing. I'm just pleased they showed a bit of passion and commitment and it did get the crowd going in the second half. The crowd definitely had a say in that win imo, encouraging if not demanding the team push forward. I know I certainly celebrated the goal like a wildman. That's what footballs all about. didn't say that we did in this game...but to me it seems that only results matter to people. Not saying that this wrong but trying to explain that there are different point of views. None of the is the ultimate one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think the majority of fans would have been delighted with a dour, grinding performance and a late winner if that kind of game was the exception, not the rule. good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think Brett's just arguing that a late winner is a reason to celebrate in itself, regardless of the wider context. He must have some sort of point, otherwise all fans of mid or lower table sides would basically stop bothering. Their team's manager is probably trying to facilitate progress to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think the majority of fans would have been delighted with a dour, grinding performance and a late winner if that kind of game was the exception, not the rule. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I would love to see the entertainers again...even though it was harsh loosing those points against Manure. Entertainment means so much to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think Brett's just arguing that a late winner is a reason to celebrate in itself, regardless of the wider context. He must have some sort of point, otherwise all fans of mid or lower table sides would basically stop bothering. Again, this is ignoring the main point. No one is saying that being 8th is bad. Being 12th would be ok if there was an understanding that we are improving. Look at Hughton's time here, or Keegan's second spell when our main concern was to avoid relegation. In both cases there was genuine hope for the future. Now we know that this season is finished and we have no intention of chasing a UEFA place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think the majority of fans would have been delighted with a dour, grinding performance and a late winner if that kind of game was the exception, not the rule. It kind of was the exception; as a rule lately we'll usually draw or lose those. Only kidding but I was actually happy it happened. If I've ever said in the past that the joy of seeing the team win had been sucked out of me then I was wrong. It's still there. Muted, but not dead. Obviously anyone can feel whatever way they want, only speaking for myself like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think Brett's just arguing that a late winner is a reason to celebrate in itself, regardless of the wider context. He must have some sort of point, otherwise all fans of mid or lower table sides would basically stop bothering. Again, this is ignoring the main point. No one is saying that being 8th is bad. Being 12th would be ok if there was an understanding that we are improving. Look at Hughton's time here, or Keegan's second spell when our main concern was to avoid relegation. In both cases there was genuine hope for the future. Now we know that this season is finished and we have no intention of chasing a UEFA place. I guess in a way this is how Bayern/Barcelona/etc fans feel after they've won everything time and again. We're Barcelona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think Brett's just arguing that a late winner is a reason to celebrate in itself, regardless of the wider context. He must have some sort of point, otherwise all fans of mid or lower table sides would basically stop bothering. Again, this is ignoring the main point. No one is saying that being 8th is bad. Being 12th would be ok if there was an understanding that we are improving. Look at Hughton's time here, or Keegan's second spell when our main concern was to avoid relegation. In both cases there was genuine hope for the future. Now we know that this season is finished and we have no intention of chasing a UEFA place. It's not ignoring the main point, it's an ability to hold the two concepts together in your mind. I admit the bigger picture is bleak, but football as a sport still holds enough interest over each match. On your last point though, I'm sick of people taking the Europa League moaning too literally. I'll never believe we're actively trying to finish lower in the league. Pardew must want to win every game, he would never have achieved anything in football if he didn't. Otherwise why celebrate the winner like that on Sunday? I agree the club overall lacks ambition under Ashley, but I think it's a mistake to project that so literally onto the manager and players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think Brett's just arguing that a late winner is a reason to celebrate in itself, regardless of the wider context. He must have some sort of point, otherwise all fans of mid or lower table sides would basically stop bothering. Again, this is ignoring the main point. No one is saying that being 8th is bad. Being 12th would be ok if there was an understanding that we are improving. Look at Hughton's time here, or Keegan's second spell when our main concern was to avoid relegation. In both cases there was genuine hope for the future. Now we know that this season is finished and we have no intention of chasing a UEFA place. It's not ignoring the main point, it's an ability to hold the two concepts together in your mind. I admit the bigger picture is bleak, but football as a sport still holds enough interest over each match. On your last point though, I'm sick of people taking the Europa League moaning too literally. I'll never believe we're actively trying to finish lower in the league. Pardew must want to win every game, he would never have achieved anything in football if he didn't. Otherwise why celebrate the winner like that on Sunday? I agree the club overall lacks ambition under Ashley, but I think it's a mistake to project that so literally onto the manager and players. Pardew's joy at the goal yesterday was more to do with his own situation, he proved that by pulling faces at the press box. As for me projecting anything onto the players and manager, the football itself speaks volumes. Goal celebrations aside, they looked like they were going through the motions for the majority of the game. Teams don't regularly concede 3 or 4 goals on a regular basis if they are up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Look at the league table you silly boys. All that matters is our league position RIGHT NOW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Look at the league table you silly boys. All that matters is our league position RIGHT NOW. Which is a bit weird really because last season when we were hovering just above the drop zone all season, we were often told that the only league position that mattered was the 5th from the season before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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