Disco Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Might start wearing my http://www.maniaonline.co.uk/images/products/277_large_42754.jpg in anticipation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If we hired Laudrup tomorrow, a month ago we'd have had Alan Pardew and tomorrow we'd have Frank Laudrup. Fucking rights I'd be happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 "Frank no, stop spitting, you need to pick a team" "graaRRRGLE" "Frank we can't play 3 goalkeepers" "hnn....hnn...hnngfarrgggggg" ad infinitum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Frank Garde for me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big Have to consider where they came from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Wales? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big Have to consider where they came from. It's complete bollocks. They got more points the year before under Rodgers than they did that season. West Brom "won the league" that year and lost 17 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big Have to consider where they came from. It's complete bollocks. They got more points the year before under Rodgers than they did that season. West Brom "won the league" that year and lost 17 games Aye that's all fine in hindsight but he's talking about that during the season before the end of season implosion which led to Rodgers having more points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tbf to Laudrup at that time Swansea finishing 8th was that big Have to consider where they came from. It's complete bollocks. They got more points the year before under Rodgers than they did that season. West Brom "won the league" that year and lost 17 games Aye that's all fine in hindsight but he's talking about that during the season before the end of season implosion which led to Rodgers having more points. 8th would still only be a 3 place improvement from the year before. If Rodgers had got 5 more points he'd have been joint 8th himself (with Liverpool and the mighty Fulham). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 is 8th not the highest finish in the clubs (swansea) history? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 is 8th not the highest finish in the clubs (swansea) history? Not sure about all time but 9th is their highest in the PL. 11th, 9th, 12th and currently 9th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 is 8th not the highest finish in the clubs (swansea) history? Not sure about all time but 9th is their highest in the PL. 11th, 9th, 12th and currently 9th. sorry i suppose i should have said it would have been their highest ever finish had they achieved it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I wouldn't mind Michael de Boer, to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Wales? against all odds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader. ‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’ ‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’. ‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’. It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate. All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head. The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message. One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating. Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course. Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”. So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions. Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening. I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible. Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it. The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more. In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field? Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own? Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it? Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad. One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”. That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions. If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly? Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader. ‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’ ‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’. ‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’. It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate. All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head. The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message. One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating. Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course. Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”. So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions. Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening. I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible. Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it. The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more. In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field? Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own? Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it? Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad. One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”. That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions. If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly? Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that. As the Echo are usually a Boro-Mackem cheer-sheet, this is an excellent article from them, and hits the nail on the head like a fairground mallet ; a better analogy to the Ashley regime I could never have imagined...the trouble is that the mass of fans CURRENTLY packing SJP are as brain-washed as many of Kim Jong-Un's regime, if not more so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Nice comparison!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ashley & Communism, strange bedfellows. Now Joseph Goebbels I could see working for Ashley, Good at delivering the party line and just a bit more right wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/11742670._/?ref=mac Wilson's World: The Communist Manifesto - or at least Newcastle United's version of it STAGE MANAGED: Managing director Lee Charnley delivered a message this week that was reminiscent of those produced by communist regimes in the past READING Lee Charnley’s message to the Geordie nation earlier this week, it was tempting to conjure up images of a communist apparatchik dutifully relaying a pre-agreed diktat on behalf of the supreme leader. ‘We know you’re not very happy with the way things are going, but we’ve got a five-year plan and we’re sticking to it. And, anyway, you’re just simple members of the proletariat, why on earth should we listen to you?’ ‘I know some of you look at other, more decadent, regimes and wonder why we aren’t spending lavishly like they are? Well, we’re all about self-sufficiency here, and never mind that our ruling elite enjoy wealth beyond your comprehension’. ‘Yes, there was a rather unfortunate defection last month. But rest assured, it won’t happen again. Our next choice of head of state will definitely be toeing the line. We don’t much like dissent here, especially when it’s directed at the workings of the grand plan’. It was all very stilted and stage managed, right down to the method of dissemination, which involved one hand-picked, compliant media organisation rather than a free invitation for discussion, which might have resulted in some open and unwanted debate. All that was missing was the sight of tanks and rocket launchers being paraded down Barrack Road in front of a beaming Mike Ashley. Or maybe Alan Pardew turning up with an ice pick in his head. The era of European dictatorship is clearly not dead, but if the Newcastle hierarchy are going to adopt communist-style methodology, perhaps they’d be advised to look at some of the reasons why the over-arching political doctrine ultimately failed. A few of them might well resonate with the fans who were the intended recipients of Charnley’s message. One of the main reasons why communism collapsed is that it proved a catastrophically inflexible economic and political model. There’s nothing wrong with developing a long-term plan or strategy, but you have to be able to amend it to reflect changes in circumstance or the external environment in which you’re operating. Communist regimes didn’t do that, sticking rigidly to policies that had already been seriously undermined by developing events. Newcastle’s leaders are doing similar, stubbornly refusing to change tack when circumstances dictate a shift in course. Hence, we got Charnley’s pronouncement that there almost certainly wouldn’t be any investment into the playing squad this month because “the January window is not one we ever envisaged being particularly active in”. So no matter that Steven Taylor’s absence until the end of the season means Newcastle will have to manage with just two centre-halves (Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson), both of whom are struggling for form, and a full-back (Paul Dummett) who is capable of deputising in one of the central positions. Never mind that after failing to adequately strengthen their attacking positions in the summer, Newcastle find themselves with Ayoze Perez leading the line by himself with a 17-year-old (Adam Armstrong) who is still to score his first Premier League goal providing the main support. Signing someone this month wasn’t part of the plan, so it won’t be happening. I criticised Sunderland for a lack of long-term planning in last week’s column, but at least their decision to recruit Jermain Defoe exhibits ambition and an acknowledgement of major failings that have become apparent in recent months. The response of the Newcastle hierarchy to a run of two wins from the last 12 matches is to bury their head in the sand and pretend that their cherished model remains infallible. Another reason why communist regimes throughout Europe collapsed is that the populace grew tired of watching others become successful while their own standards of living remained unacceptably low. They knew how much money was washing around the regime’s coffers, yet they saw no tangible improvements because of it. The annual Deloitte Money List was published yesterday and revealed that Newcastle United are the 19th richest club in the world. Their annual revenue, which is calculated for 2013-14, is £129.7m, with only six English clubs raking in more. In the last 12 months, they have received around £20m for Yohan Cabaye and around £12m for Mathieu Debuchy, so why, you might well ask, does that financial strength not transfer across to success on the field? Why is so little money reinvested into the squad in comparison to the likes of Southampton, Everton, West Ham United and even Stoke City, clubs whose annual income falls well short of their own? Why is there such a paucity of ambition, especially in relation to the cup competitions, when other clubs manage to juggle assaults on a variety of fronts despite much more limited resources? If survival is the extent of a club’s ambition, how long will supporters be prepared to tolerate it? Then there is the issue of expansionist ambitions. An accusation often levelled at former communist leaders is that they took their eye off the ball at home because they became fixated on what they could potentially achieve abroad. One of the main disappointments about this week’s interview with Charnley is that he was not pushed further on Ashley’s ongoing interest in Rangers. His only comment on the subject was to refer to a previous statement in September, which stated that Ashley would not be selling Newcastle “at least until the end of next season”. That’s fine, but there are still a host of unresolved questions about Ashley’s investment into Rangers, from the issue of whether UEFA would allow Newcastle and Rangers to take up a European place at the same time given his involvement in both clubs to the debate over which club will take primacy when it comes to making investment decisions. If Ashley is preparing the groundwork for a possible sale in the second half of 2016, does that mean Newcastle will effectively be treading water between now and then? And if he continues to increase his influence at Ibrox, does that mean his input into issues at St James’ Park will decrease accordingly? Some big questions relating to the future of Newcastle United, but sadly an absence of answers. Glasnost, in Communist days, was a policy calling for increased transparency and openness. Whatever his intentions were, Charnley’s attempt to reach out this week fell a fair way short of that. As the Echo are usually a Boro-Mackem cheer-sheet, this is an excellent article from them, and hits the nail on the head like a fairground mallet ; a better analogy to the Ashley regime I could never have imagined...the trouble is that the mass of fans CURRENTLY packing SJP are as brain-washed as many of Kim Jong-Un's regime, if not more so. Yes this is a great piece. I mentioned this rigidity to a sound process in my comments on the article when it came out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Echo to the gulags, Charnley! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Any particular reason this was locked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My fat fingers - sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My fat fingers - sorry Thought so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Quite a lock war in the moderation log Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hope this cunt and his even fatter mate fall under a bus this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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