BONTEMPI Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That doesn't sound right, he part time? Sun loungers don't stack themselves you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He would be seen as back up for our front line forwards apparently. Would love to know who they're going to be. welcome to newcastle united, need at least 2 starting first team forwards sign backup striker first as first priority [but but it's not as simple as just signing players when you want, blah fucking blah] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That doesn't sound right, he part time? He's on a youth contract. Tenerife offered him a proper professional deal when he bursted into scene this season, but he's been refusing it - no doubt to facilitate a move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Not sure where to put this but great article http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/agenda-its-time-help-potential-7149477? Tenerife starlet Ayoze Perez is one of Europe's hottest properties - but would he develop at Newcastle United? Mark Douglas reports A funny thing happened at Estadio Helidoro Rodriguez Lopez on Sunday. The home of CD Tenerife sits among the picturesque, rocky mountains of the Canary Islands but this weekend, idyllic turned into antagonistic as Francisco Jiménez Tejada popped the Segunda Liga club’s promotion bubble with a smart winner for visiting club Cordoba. You might know Tejada better as Xisco, the man that – ultimately – brought down Kevin Keegan and started the cycle of distrust that still whirs at St James’ Park to this day. As Xisco scored, and the home fans started waving the white hankies at the former Newcastle man, Ayoze Perez toiled in the evening sun. The 20-year-old has been a revelation this season but his form has tailed off a bit and as his goals have evaporated, so have Tenerife’s hopes of jumping into La Liga. Newcastle had people watching this weekend. Perez could be the future, Xisco is the past – but United are still troubled by the question marks that surround their approach to developing young players. Xisco was a £7million acquisition sold to Keegan as part of a wider plot to encourage South American and Iberian agents to start looking on the club favourably. Newcastle don’t do that anymore, preferring to press the flesh and sell the club a mite more organically these days. It is a healthier approach that builds trust and explains why major agents still take their calls, despite the toxic cloud that has settled over St James’ Park over the last 12 months. What they don’t have – and no amount of top notch scouting and networking can alter this – is a track record of improving the young players that they buy. Perez, described by those with knowledge of him as a “down-to-earth kid with plenty to learn”, might take note. The idea behind signing Perez for just under £2million would be to buy potential. There are those within the club who wonder whether he would adapt successfully to English football because he is not as strong as your typical British 20-year-old footballer. But he is quick, technically adept and able to drift in behind a more orthodox front man. He also knows where the back of the net is, having bagged 16 goals in 33 Segunda Ligue games – including running Real Madrid’s ‘B’ team ragged earlier this season. Canary Islands’ journalist Ross Browning summed it up when he said: “For the money Newcastle United are talking about, it would be an absolute steal.” Newcastle’s plan would be to have him drift between the first team and what is termed ‘the development squad’ but that has been a dead end for too many footballers recently. Good money has been spent on Gael Bigirimana and Romain Amalfitano but their progress has reversed drastically recently. Both are available this summer after Newcastle concluded that they would not get the first team football that they clearly need. What of Mehdi Abeid too? The midfielder was praised for his impact initially but fell away badly last season, to the point where he could not even make the squad for the cup competitions that the club treat so lightly. This year he was loaned out to Panathinaikos where his form improved and he became one of the stars of their season. Now the Greek league, Coventry City and the lower reaches of French football do not ask the same searching questions of a footballer that playing in the Premier League for a club like Newcastle do. But each and every one of the players recruited by Newcastle as works in progress have enough ability to at least threaten the first team. There are others who have slipped through the cracks: James Tavenier, Haris Vuckic and Shane Ferguson have all spent time out on loan this season. All are available despite Newcastle’s desperate need to bolster their squad next season. Inevitably, questions will be asked of Pardew’s role in their development. A manager who is actively seeking to recruit Jonjo Shelvey – a typically British powerhouse midfielder – and has previously looked at Darren Bent might not be the best coach to bring on players who come with experience of European leagues. Pardew survived the briefest of summer inquests at Newcastle – his meeting with Mike Ashley was short and to-the-point, with assurances having already been given to him weeks earlier – and that would appear to be wrong. The manager should have been pinned on this and required to re-write a blueprint for developing players from promising fringe men into bona fide first team contenders. His response when asked about Southampton earlier this season was insufficient. To suggest education or economic reasons for the Saints’ impressive youth development was wrong: it is actually more to do with Southampton’s investment in that side of the club. Newcastle, by contrast, only achieved Category One status for their Academy in the last couple of months. It is an area that they have neglected. There have been suggestions of a reshuffle in the coaching staff and perhaps there does need to be movement. The responsibility of ensuring there is a route into the first team for these players would have been a perfect one for a potential director of football, although that idea has been trashed along with the last vestiges of Joe Kinnear’s reputation. United’s young players are an age-old problem. Adam Campbell’s regression is a major source of frustration and is a warning for their England under-19 starlet Adam Armstrong, who is a fine player with substantial potential but is still very, very raw. He will need to be carefully handled if he is not to go the way of previous rising stars Campbell, Nile Ranger and company. Never mind signing young players, Newcastle’s real challenge is to come up with a way of turning soaring potential into points, pedigree and prizes. Simply throwing money at the problem – as they might do if they nick Perez from Tenerife – is not going to cut it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Stopped reading at "Tenerife starlet Ayoze Perez is one of Europe's hottest properties", is he fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Bargain basement players at rock bottom prices,Ashleys wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Stopped reading at "Tenerife starlet Ayoze Perez is one of Europe's hottest properties", is he f***. I was more referring to how our progression of youngsters seems to stagnate or regress here, it always has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Good article. The development squad is a bona fide failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Lowlights No development squad more like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashley youth failures XI: Tozer - Kadar - Ferguson Amalfitano - Bigirimana - Abeid - Vuckic Zamblera - Ranger - Spear Struggling for a goalkeeper. Any obvious ones I'm missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Soderberg still at NUFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The Scandinavian kid with the blonde hair, can't remember his name at the mo (or the exact country!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Aye Soderberg, he moved on - just looked it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashley youth failures XI: Tozer - Kadar - Ferguson Amalfitano - Bigirimana - Abeid - Vuckic Zamblera - Ranger - Spear Struggling for a goalkeeper. Any obvious ones I'm missing? Forster? Not signed under Ashley but failed to develop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashley youth failures XI: Tozer - Kadar - Ferguson Amalfitano - Bigirimana - Abeid - Vuckic Zamblera - Ranger - Spear Struggling for a goalkeeper. Any obvious ones I'm missing? Forster? Not signed under Ashley but failed to develop him. Think Forster would be a harsh one, we just had to choose between him or Krul basically. Both were at a promising standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Wouldn't include Forster, we sold him to a massive club because we couldn't accommodate two class keepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashley youth failures XI: Tozer - Kadar - Ferguson Amalfitano - Bigirimana - Abeid - Vuckic Zamblera - Ranger - Spear Struggling for a goalkeeper. Any obvious ones I'm missing? Perez at least seems to have had some regular first team football behind him and some good form. Bigi possibly played the most for his previous team out of those mentioned and he was still very much a kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashley youth failures XI: Tozer - Kadar - Ferguson Amalfitano - Bigirimana - Abeid - Vuckic Zamblera - Ranger - Spear Struggling for a goalkeeper. Any obvious ones I'm missing? Perez at least seems to have had some regular first team football behind him and some good form. Bigi possibly played the most for his previous team out of those mentioned and he was still very much a kid. Amalfitano had just been promoted from Ligue 2 and he played in most of the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashley youth failures XI: Tozer - Kadar - Ferguson Amalfitano - Bigirimana - Abeid - Vuckic Zamblera - Ranger - Spear Struggling for a goalkeeper. Any obvious ones I'm missing? Plays in the Icelandic second tier . And he's not the only one to have done that in recent years. Tomi Ameobi and Darren Lough also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The fact they call it the development squad is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Destroyment squad would be more appropriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 There are others who have slipped through the cracks: James Tavenier, Haris Vuckic and Shane Ferguson have all spent time out on loan this season. All are available despite Newcastle’s desperate need to bolster their squad next season. Inevitably, questions will be asked of Pardew’s role in their development. A manager who is actively seeking to recruit Jonjo Shelvey – a typically British powerhouse midfielder – and has previously looked at Darren Bent might not be the best coach to bring on players who come with experience of European leagues. Pardew survived the briefest of summer inquests at Newcastle – his meeting with Mike Ashley was short and to-the-point, with assurances having already been given to him weeks earlier – and that would appear to be wrong. The manager should have been pinned on this and required to re-write a blueprint for developing players from promising fringe men into bona fide first team contenders. There's no need to develop players in Ashley's blueprint. Buy them cheap enough and make a profit if someone makes a decent bid while maintaining a mid-table position. Why would you hire a gormless prick like Pardew if you wanted to develop players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Forgot about aaron spear completely. Was dubbed the next Rooney iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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