Dr Venkman Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I've posted this on the Palace board, hoping that it maybe sinks in. I didn't realise you'd been posting all night, fair play for keeping it going, I bowed out as soon as the news was definite. They're basically not having it, but we can go back in a few months and see how they're feeling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Spent the last hour and half drinking in Leeds station (only bar serving at that time) rounded off with a KFC Big Daddy box meal. This is a good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 NEWCASTLE WON'T RUSH MANAGER SEARCH By Damian Spellman, Press Association Sport Newcastle are unlikely to make a swift appointment as they look for a replacement for manager Alan Pardew after ruling out skipper Fabricio Coloccini as a candidate. Pardew is set to be unveiled at the new Crystal Palace boss after the Eagles were given permission to talk to the 53-year-old on Monday evening following an offer of compensation. Argentina international Coloccini emerged as a surprise bookmakers' favourite to succeed him at St James' Park overnight, but Press Association Sport understands he is not being considered for the vacancy. Owner Mike Ashley, who remains on holiday in Barbados, and chief executive Lee Charnley have drawn up a short-list of potential candidates, but it is likely that Pardew's assistant John Carver and first-team coach Steve Stone will take charge for Thursday's Barclays Premier League clash with Burnley and the FA Cup third round trip to Leicester 48 hours later. Newcastle are unlikely to deviate from Ashley's masterplan as they look to full the gap left by the impending departure of their manager after more than four years on Tyneside. Whoever slips into the St James' hot-seat in his wake will have to buy into the same model under which Pardew has operated during his time at the club. Reports have suggested that Pardew decided to call it a day after being told there would not be significant investment in the squad during the forthcoming transfer window, and fearing that key players, midfielder Moussa Sissoko among them, could be sold next month. But it is understood that Pardew had been given assurances that the Magpies would remain extremely strong on that front and would not be allowing the likes of the France international, who has been linked with Paris St Germain and Arsenal, to leave in January. Former Palace boss Tony Pulis and current Hull manager Steve Bruce have been touted as prospective replacements, and sources close to the pair have indicated an approach would not be unwelcome, although the fact that Bruce, like Derby's Steve McClaren, who signed a new three-year contract in August, is currently in a job may not play well with Ashley, whose track record suggests he does not want to pay compensation. The Magpies have conducted most of their recent transfer activity in Europe and have strong contacts on the continent, although Ajax boss Frank de Boer has already distanced himself for a vacancy with which St Etienne's Christophe Galtier has been linked repeatedly in the recent past. But what is clear is that the man who eventually gets the job will have to operate under the same conditions as Pardew, who had made little secret of his desire to bolster his squad next month. That blueprint, which involves recruiting players with potential, developing them and selling them at a profit, as the club did with Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy, is managed by chief scout Graham Carr, who, like the manager, was handed an eight-year contract back in 2012, and he is likely to have a significant influence in identifying the number one choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 NEWCASTLE WON'T RUSH MANAGER SEARCH By Damian Spellman, Press Association Sport Newcastle are unlikely to make a swift appointment as they look for a replacement for manager Alan Pardew after ruling out skipper Fabricio Coloccini as a candidate. Pardew is set to be unveiled at the new Crystal Palace boss after the Eagles were given permission to talk to the 53-year-old on Monday evening following an offer of compensation. Argentina international Coloccini emerged as a surprise bookmakers' favourite to succeed him at St James' Park overnight, but Press Association Sport understands he is not being considered for the vacancy. Owner Mike Ashley, who remains on holiday in Barbados, and chief executive Lee Charnley have drawn up a short-list of potential candidates, but it is likely that Pardew's assistant John Carver and first-team coach Steve Stone will take charge for Thursday's Barclays Premier League clash with Burnley and the FA Cup third round trip to Leicester 48 hours later. Newcastle are unlikely to deviate from Ashley's masterplan as they look to full the gap left by the impending departure of their manager after more than four years on Tyneside. Whoever slips into the St James' hot-seat in his wake will have to buy into the same model under which Pardew has operated during his time at the club. Reports have suggested that Pardew decided to call it a day after being told there would not be significant investment in the squad during the forthcoming transfer window, and fearing that key players, midfielder Moussa Sissoko among them, could be sold next month. But it is understood that Pardew had been given assurances that the Magpies would remain extremely strong on that front and would not be allowing the likes of the France international, who has been linked with Paris St Germain and Arsenal, to leave in January. Former Palace boss Tony Pulis and current Hull manager Steve Bruce have been touted as prospective replacements, and sources close to the pair have indicated an approach would not be unwelcome, although the fact that Bruce, like Derby's Steve McClaren, who signed a new three-year contract in August, is currently in a job may not play well with Ashley, whose track record suggests he does not want to pay compensation. The Magpies have conducted most of their recent transfer activity in Europe and have strong contacts on the continent, although Ajax boss Frank de Boer has already distanced himself for a vacancy with which St Etienne's Christophe Galtier has been linked repeatedly in the recent past. But what is clear is that the man who eventually gets the job will have to operate under the same conditions as Pardew, who had made little secret of his desire to bolster his squad next month. That blueprint, which involves recruiting players with potential, developing them and selling them at a profit, as the club did with Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy, is managed by chief scout Graham Carr, who, like the manager, was handed an eight-year contract back in 2012, and he is likely to have a significant influence in identifying the number one choice. I hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 liking that last paragraph very much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 In lieu of a club statement, the PA stuff is probably about as close as we'll get to the 'truth' at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 "Just heard Steven Howey the former toon centre back on talksport saying the palace move is a backward step for Pardew. so coming to a club with money to spend and an imminent takeover and where the the fans love and respect pardew is a backward step ? Btw Pardew was told by Ashley that he will have no money to Spend in January,not that he buys the players anyway. all the Geordie make up the sackpardew.com website then come crying on here when he jumps ship. Howey and all the other deluded Geordies can do one." "EVERY Manager at some stage or another feels the wrath of the fans...what you need to realise is that in Clowns and Newcastle fans you have /had a set of fans that suffer from delusions of grandieur.You only have to look at the pundits reaction to him thinking about coming to us to see that.Christ knows if he gets us into mid table mediocraty I'll be f'ing ecstatic...17th will do me at the moment!! His record isnt as bad as they suggest either...and even if it was its better than anyone else we could reasonably (and I use that word advisedly for all thoes that think we shouldve gone back for Pulis) expect. So rather than trust the words of bitter fans lets just see how he does shall we." "If we could just rewind two years all these Toon fans would be calling Pards a miracle worker and best boss since Keegan, etc. He's overstayed that is all. Twice he has proved himself more than capable in The Prem. West Ham and them. My arms are open." "The Newcastle fans on here have been hilarious, proving exactly what we think about them! Lets see what happens with them, will they get anyone any good? Unlikely. This is a definite improvement on Warnock, but can he be as good as Pulis? I think this can go either way if I'm honest - possibly has the qualifications but there has always been something about Pardew that didn't seem quite right... but fvck it, we took a manager from a club way higher in the table and when have we ever done that before? Great appointment Mr Parish. Hope the 'Super Al' chant comes back..." http://i.imgur.com/W6OJogP.gif This lad knows. "This is the worst day in the eagle history of managers, this will turn out to be a horrific decision." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The club model of buying cheap and selling high isn't a horrible thing, in and of itself. Southampton for example are doing very well and making a packet doing so. Galling as it is to be following in their footsteps only a few seasons after being in Europe ourselves, I see no reason why Ashley couldn't adopt that model. As has always been the case, having a good manager would only ever have been beneficial to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The club model of buying cheap and selling high isn't a horrible thing, in and of itself. Southampton for example are doing very well and making a packet doing so. Galling as it is to be following in their footsteps only a few seasons after being in Europe ourselves, I see no reason why Ashley couldn't adopt that model. As has always been the case, having a good manager would only ever have been beneficial to him. It's a model that could work with a little adjustment. Ashley always leaves holes in the squad. If he made sure that every player that left was replaced it wouldn't be such an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Did David Craig die? Who is this guy on SSN? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What wonderful news to come home to, Parish you beautiful fucking bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What influence could Graham Carr have on the recruitment of a new manager? If he had a high level of influence on the selection of a new boss, would this not make it more likely we get someone in who can get the best out of the players that Carr has identified for the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Did David Craig die? Who is this guy on SSN? Craig David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Media are desperate for us to nosedive (further) now, you can just feel it. One of their favourites has been forced out and if things go wrong it'll all be the fans' fault. Of course they'll just gloss over the fact that Pardew is the one bailing out and he hasn't been sacked. The irony is that the media's underlying support for Pardew has probably helped you shift the bastard to Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 liking that last paragraph very much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 As much as a lot of us hate him, Ashkey is so close to getting the club set up spot on. Stop leaving the gaps in the squad, appoint the right man and not a yes man, and take down the sports direct shit at SJP and we can all be happy again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 As much as a lot of us hate him, Ashkey is so close to getting the club set up spot on. Stop leaving the gaps in the squad, appoint the right man and not a yes man, and take down the sports direct s*** at SJP and we can all be happy again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Lets not forget that getting shot of Pardew doesn't guarantee things will improve. We won 6 games in a row and I didn't give a fuck. In fact that's not true, with every victory I became more irritated. Personally, that's as bad as I can imagine things ever being, regardless of what division we're in. When you're at the point where you can't watch the games, can't talk about the team or the club with anyone and that seeing the team get a result makes you depressed, there's only one way to go from there. Good fucking riddance to the horrible cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What influence could Graham Carr have on the recruitment of a new manager? If he had a high level of influence on the selection of a new boss, would this not make it more likely we get someone in who can get the best out of the players that Carr has identified for the club? He's the only person in a senior role with any proper football knowledge - if Ashley has any sense he'll leave the whole shortlisting process to him. Then watch Charnley fuck it up by offering them all shitty, low-paid contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Media are desperate for us to nosedive (further) now, you can just feel it. One of their favourites has been forced out and if things go wrong it'll all be the fans' fault. Of course they'll just gloss over the fact that Pardew is the one bailing out and he hasn't been sacked. The irony is that the media's underlying support for Pardew has probably helped you shift the bastard to Palace. This has had me smiling for almost two days now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What influence could Graham Carr have on the recruitment of a new manager? If he had a high level of influence on the selection of a new boss, would this not make it more likely we get someone in who can get the best out of the players that Carr has identified for the club? If Carr does have a say in or is even in charge of who we get as manager then he'll likely go for a manager who will mange to the strength of the players he brought in. To me this would be a manager who likes to attack teams, a manager who plays football on the floor and not up in the air. If this is the case then we can rule out all the cloggers who have been mentioned and who we fear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Lets not forget that getting shot of Pardew doesn't guarantee things will improve. We won 6 games in a row and I didn't give a f***. In fact that's not true, with every victory I became more irritated. Personally, that's as bad as I can imagine things ever being, regardless of what division we're in. When you're at the point where you can't watch the games, can't talk about the team or the club with anyone and that seeing the team get a result makes you depressed, there's only one way to go from there. Good f***ing riddance to the horrible c***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So the compensation is £2mill then? You can bet your arse that's the budget for the next manager, and I mean 4 years wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I love how this club model doesn't involve actually pushing the club on to any tangible degree but merely exists for nothing other than filling Ashley's pockets. Try to progress the team? Well....aye but only to the point that our best players are coveted by the top clubs and we sell them for great money which we never see sending us straight back to square one! Great blueprint, how dare we want more than that.Geordie cunts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Somewhere between £2m and £3m I think going by reports from yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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