JH Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He didn't win so many did he? Nah, just a lot more draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He would be a good England manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brendan_Rice Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Got in an argument with my brother in law about this cunt. "He done alright at Newcastle". Oh just fuck right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The amount of pundits that keep saying 'he did well at Newcastle' is sickening tbh. Having said that, they probably didn't watch how dog shit we played week after week, so their opinions aren't even valid. We know what we had to endure, and that's all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He could win the Champions League with Crystal Palace, but it would not make his time at Newcastle a success. Why would it matter? Nothing can turn the results and embarrasments around. Why should Man Utd and Everton fans have the same opinion on Moyes, or should Leeds and Sunderland fans share the same view on Wilkinson? Who gives a flying f*** about Alan Pardew anymore? Hi is gone and if we can get a decent manager in at some point, we will be back above Crystal Palace in no time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Good examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He would be a good England manager. MEthiGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He'd be good for about five matches tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 pardew always a lucky spell at the beginning of his stint at all clubs he takes over, man city had 20 odd shots last night to palaces 5 this time next year when he gets his arrogant teeth into them ( with possibly another manager of the year trophy under his belt ) we will see the real pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 We were right to let Pardew go at that moment (or sack him, sadly we couldn't), and this actually doesn't really related to whether he is a good manager or not - the fact that his existence here helped Ashley to generate huge profits is already more than enough. If someone doesn't understand this is for the long term good of NUFC, then just let it be. Due to the above, I think people should be more objective in judging Pardew's ability. His work in Crystal Palace is absolutely brilliant. Even if it is "the new manager bounce", which I don't agree with, his appointment is already the most successful one in EPL this season, by paying 3m to secure a place for next season, and got lots of funds in the coming summer to enhance the squad. Unless Crystal Palace relegate next season, he would not be considered a bad manager anymore, at least not here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He would be a good England manager. Give him the job right before the Euro's and let him 'new manager bounce' his way to the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 http://cominghomenewcastle.sbnation.com/2015/4/7/8359003/palace-newcastle-pardew-legacy-city-2-0 In spite of a string of positive results for Crystal Palace, Pardew's time on Tyneside was still mostly disastrous. Newcastle United were in the news again today. It was not for losing yet another derby. It was not for anything the club actively did. Newcastle United were the butt of all of the "Bet Newcastle are sorry they chased Alan Pardew off hurrrrr" jokes that you knew were coming our way the moment that our former head man cleared the doorway at St. James' Park. Crystal Palace has beaten Manchester City 2-1 (Yes, the same Manchester City that Pardew lost to 3-1, 3-1, 2-0, 4-0, 4-0, 2-0, 2-0, 2-0 during his time at Newcastle) and we are now meant to feel very badly about ourselves for saying mean things about The Man Who Would Have Been King (had the Geordies not been so bleeding unreasonable). At the end of the day, though, the success that Pardew is having at Crystal Palace was every bit as foreseeable as it does not change what happened with Pardew at Newcastle. Alan Pardew's record over the last 12 months of his tenure at Newcastle was abysmal. Relegation form over 12 months. Our bacon was saved only by the fact that this relegation form was split over two seasons and the annual Alan Pardew of the Month Award (November) was enough on two occasions to keep us relatively out of trouble. Outside of November, nothing can change the level of mediocrity and terribleness that he managed to achieve at St. James' Park. If we operate on the understanding that Alan Pardew is as Alan Pardew does, we are left to look for a different explanation for the discrepancy between his results at Newcastle and his results thus far at Crystal Palace. Alan Pardew manages to start off hot: Alan Pardew's first match in charge of Newcastle United was a 3-1 victory over Liverpool. He would end the 2010-11 season in decent form and then followed the 2011-12 season. Oh, that magical season. This, however, was nothing new to Pardew who has a track record of starting with a fair bit of success early in tenures before he cools off and ultimately fades down the league table. This has been hashed and rehashed within the Toon Army. There are a couple of realities that have influenced the difference in Pardew's results between Palace and Newcastle. We never replaced Andy Carroll: Pardew frequently (and over years) bemoaned the fact that Andy Carroll was never replaced. Many of us never dug into this in earnest. It's not that we didn't bring in another striker. We didn't bring in – and keep – that TYPE of striker. We did bring in Demba Ba for that magical 2011-12 season, but when we sold him to Chelsea, Alan Pardew didn't have the stiker that could control the long balls out of defense, and then create for himself or others. In today's Palace/City match, Glenn Murray was the most perfect example of what Pardew was missing at Newcastle. Murray was everything that Papiss Cisse cannot be. That Ayoze Perez cannot be. That Emmanuel Riviere has not been. He was Leon Best. He was Andy Carroll. He wore out Manchester City's CBs in the air and ultimately put home the opener that Pardew never could find with Newcastle. Outside of missing that one player, Newcastle's squad is better than Crystal Palace's. Pardew was always too stubborn to prevent himself from pressing a tactic for which he didn't have the players. But there still was enough quality in the NUFC squad that he should not have achieved at such a low level over so much time. The players must be accountable: We accept that there is talent in the squad. We accept that, in spite of Pardew's stubbornness and unwillingness to play a style that matched the players at his disposal, the players should have been better than what they were under him. The players have been no better (except maybe Remy Cabella) under John Carver – although he has played the same tactics for much of his time in charge – which leaves us needing to understand that whatever drives the players who wear the Newcastle United shirt isn't enough. Moussa Sissoko is playing for a new club... but his performances haven't earned him that attention. Some players are just not good enough and we've had to rely too heavily on some of those. This is a bit of an evasion, however. Many of those players (Mike Williamson, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini, Tim Krul) played integral roles in the 2011-12 season and every season since. We are better at other positions. Daryl Janmaat >> Danny Simpson for instance. As evidenced by the derby, these players won't play for the shirt. They evidently have trouble motivating themselves with their professional pride. Ultimately, they have a part of the blame to hold for Alan Pardew's ultimate failing at Newcastle United. However, the lion's share of blame must and will always go to Pardew, his stubbornness and inability to adapt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I was thinking about Brendan Rodgers last night. Reading sacked* him when they were about to drop into the Championship relegation zone. But he's doing well at Liverpool. Does that mean Reading were wrong? Of course not. *technically it was mutual consent, but we all know what that really means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Why does this thread still exist? Makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Still hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Still hate him. Hatred is such a self-destructive feeling you know. Pick love over hate you fucking cunt. I hate you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Still hate him. Hatred is such a self-destructive feeling you know. Pick love over hate you fucking cunt. I hate you. Wew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I see jotenko is back out on license. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I see jotenko is back out on license. Hello mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mako Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 This time last year the media were so enraged by the head butt incident that they were advocating his sacking. Conveniently forgotten now. Anyone see the piece about how he'd been getting head shrinking help from the PFA. He's identified his trigger points and learned how to control them. I should have become a psychologist - license to print money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 This time last year the media were so enraged by the head butt incident that they were advocating his sacking. Conveniently forgotten now. Anyone see the piece about how he'd been getting head shrinking help from the PFA. He's identified his trigger points and learned how to control them. I should have become a psychologist - license to print money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I see jotenko is back out on license. Hello mate. :lol: Why Quaresma? He plays for Porto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Second season syndrome surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 No doubt in the post-match interviews he will mention that SMB beat us last week. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/alan-pardew-blames-under-funded-newcastle-9025940 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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