STM Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Got loads of their stuff. It's really smart. Then again, I'm not used to wearing Prada or owt. Also, for whatever reason, its good value. Constant sales online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Having a new shirt sponsor other than Fun88 will be half of the battle. Their stuff looks good to me. Hopefully the next sponsor won’t be such a scar on the shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I like the castore stuff. Someone mention puma again above, absolute no from me. Horrendous quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said: I’ve bought a couple of things from the club shop recently (for the first time in years) and I’m impressed with the quality from Castore. The gear is decent. I get what you’re saying re distribution networks but they’ve grown quite rapidly. They sponsor Cricket South Africa & the West Indies as well as some rugby union sides and McLaren F1. They’re a new brand but certainly not small time. They're all very niche teams in the grand scheme of things where the only people buying the shirts are local supporters in the main. As Izakaya says, someone like Nike could get their gear out to any part of the world in large numbers. I'd still maintain they're small time as look who they work with compared to the major sports brands; not even the same league. How many retail outlets do Castore have in the UK/worldwide? Also need to look at how sports retail is developing where major brands are making and selling their own products themselves and bypassing traditional sports shops. Nearly every major/middle ranking city has an Adidas/Nike/Puma retail outlet not to mention an online presence. This is important as it means the sports companies make more profit and in turn can offer better deals to clubs. In many ways Nike/Adidas are replicating Ashley's Sports direct model of making and selling their own stuff; only difference is that Sports Direct brands aren't as premium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Castore gear is relatively decent tbh. I'd absolutely hate to revert to puma ffs, rotten gear. Short term I think castore is here to stay, and if we start doing well we are going to be a bit of jewel in their crown. I'd take umbro tomorrow mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, NE27 said: Castore gear is relatively decent tbh. I'd absolutely hate to revert to puma ffs, rotten gear. Short term I think castore is here to stay, and if we start doing well we are going to be a bit of jewel in their crown. I'd take umbro tomorrow mind. Is it about quality or where we can get the best deal for the club, particularly where we want to be? I think people are being short sighted when it comes to the quality of our shirts. Newcastle under Ashley is a completely different proposition to Newcastle under the new owners where were entitled to the same treatment as Man City/Borussia Dortmund in regards to Puma. Whoever we work with, it would be in our power to insist on quality products. Castor currently have none to very few international distribution networks, no retail outlets overseas (how many in the UK?) And finally don't even have an app. This all matters as are they going to be able to meet our ambitions and also offer us a top deal? Why should we almost be a ginny pig for Castore as they develop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, macphisto said: City/Borussia Dortmund in regards to Puma Very small point from your overall very good point. Pumas attempts for these clubs is fucking shocking, on every level. Ok it's about the best financial package and how many we can shift, but yes, personally I would like some decent quality gear tbh. PSG is a complete non starter as they are a nothing club parading as a fashion brand, fuck that! We aren't a big name yet, hopefully that will come. But kids on the streets of every city aren't going to buy an Adidas Newcastle shirt next season because we have lots of money. In time I'm very sure we will move to one of the more reputable brands. I get where you are coming from though totally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 In order for me it would be; Nike (or a sub brand like Jordan, SB or ACG) New Balance Umbro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, macphisto said: I'd bin Castore as soon as possible if I was the club. Not only are they small time but I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow have links to Ashley given they provide the shirts for both Rangers and Newcastle. We should aim to create a similar partnership that Nike and PSG have together. PSG is more of a sub-brand of Nike/Jordan now than simply PSG merchandise and will allow us to maximise revenue from both supporters and non-supporters. Another big thing to consider are distribution networks, I travel a lot and I can't think of the last time I saw a Newcastle shirt overseas. With that in mind I'd go for Adidas or Nike, lesser extent Puma. I know Puma were our recent short makers but I can imagine they thought there was no point in them promoting our stuff overseas as no one would buy it. Castore simply don't have the networks to sell our stuff overseas in sufficient numbers. Talking about Castore being small time, they remind me of Sandbanks which is owned by Jamie Redknapp. Trying to create a premium brand from nowhere (check out the prices of the jackets). Keep an eye out on Sky Sports as you'll see Neville and a few others wearing the brand. Flintoff has already been accused of promoting the brand on Top Gear. Imagine Wor Jordan's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, Izakaya said: In order for me it would be; Nike (or a sub brand like Jordan, SB or ACG) New Balance Umbro Take all of my money, now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, NE27 said: Very small point from your overall very good point. Pumas attempts for these clubs is fucking shocking, on every level. We aren't a big name yet, hopefully that will come. But kids on the streets of every city aren't going to buy an Adidas Newcastle shirt next season because we have lots of money. In time I'm very sure we will move to one of the more reputable brands. I didn't know that about Puma's other kits, I was thinking more along the lines of I couldn't see Ashley/Barnes/Charnley giving a toss about quality in the past. I wonder if the club could front load any deals, as in tempt a sports company to give us a big deal that's comparative to some of the bid clubs? Say a 8 year deal that compares to the biggest deals now but wouldn't rise over the 8 years. There could also be penalties if we don't reach certain league positions, etc. I'm just thinking that we would be the perfect club for someone like New Balance who tried to break into the big time with Liverpool. Just a way to help with FFP. I get where you're coming from with regards to building the brand with kids on the street but one aspect that I don't know about but could have a huge impact is the Saudi market. Will the Saudi's feel a sense of national pride to wear the shirt or not in the immediate future (particularly when we have Saudi sponsorship and not Fun88)? Population of 35.6 million with a median age of nearly 32 years and who all have decent disposable income (prime target group) could prove hugely significant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 51 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Imagine Wor Jordan's Imagine them with Geordie Jeans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Some massive sports teams have Jordan now... would make a statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, macphisto said: Imagine them with Geordie Jeans Jordan Jeans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Izakaya said: In order for me it would be; Nike (or a sub brand like Jordan, SB or ACG) New Balance Umbro First two would do for me, New Balance seemed to have done a decent job with Liverpool and would have given them great experience of selling football shirts. I like how you mention ACG, this is complete fantasy but I'd be well up for going into partnership with someone like North Face if they ever tried to break into football (complete non-starter). I wonder who we could get to sponsor our matchday clothing like Dsquared2 and Man City? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, macphisto said: First two would do for me, New Balance seemed to have done a decent job with Liverpool and would have given them great experience of selling football shirts. I like how you mention ACG, this is complete fantasy but I'd be well up for going into partnership with someone like North Face if they ever tried to break into football (complete non-starter). I wonder who we could get to sponsor our matchday clothing like Dsquared2 and Man City? Berghaus is a north east company too... Barbour for the Matchday and formal gear? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 dont think the make of the kit is an issue - its going to look shit until we get rid of the sponsor - or change the design of the sponsor patch if FUN888 are staying a bit longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Insist on the sponsor adopting your colour scheme for a start, would make even this current shirt more palatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Castore opening a club shop in the metro centre. Looks like castore are here to stay for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) On 08/02/2022 at 12:07, cubaricho said: I think Castore working with the new owners will eventually be class. We'll be the standout brand for them. I got the new top, - I really like it, best shirt in years for me, probably the best since Adidas, and better than a lot of theirs too. Feels decent quality, and like the design with the collar and that. The only shit things are the garish sponsor (not their fault) and the sew-on badge (people seem to think any manufacturer would do that now). I like having a different maker to most other teams too, so we don't share a template. Edited February 16, 2022 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said: I got the new top, - I really like it, best shirt in years for me, probably the best since Adidas, and better than a lot of theirs too. Feels decent quality, and like the design with the collar and that. The only shit things are the garish sponsor (not their fault) and the sew-on badge (people seem to think any manufacturer would do that now). I like having a different maker to most other teams too, so we don't share a template. Adidas club badges are different quality compared to ours. I’m not anti Castore, but think they need to sort badge and then getting rid of that shit sponsor will fix the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 When new clothing brands come out they tend to be quality like, that's part of how they gain a reputation, often at a loss. If Castore end up becoming a well known brand I'd expect the quality to drop or the prices to go up, or both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: or the prices to go up Jesus, you seen the cost of shit in the store for a start? As much as I've liked the new gear it's serious coin, bit too much imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I didn't realize Castore did Rangers and Wolves too. Also Andy Murray, McLaren F1. They're doing Sevilla and Leverkusen from next season too. They're bigger than I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: Adidas club badges are different quality compared to ours. I’m not anti Castore, but think they need to sort badge and then getting rid of that shit sponsor will fix the rest. It’s no coincidence that immediately after the takeover they brought out the “retro” shirt, which is basically the current home shirt but with a stitched crest, no shit sponsor and a slightly different collar. I have no doubt Ashley will have agreed the cheapest possible deal with them and their quality will be much better next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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