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34 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

How so, VAR has pulled/ignored some true shockers this season? 2 spectacularly bad ones for us, and no doubt every other team could quote a couple too.

 

FIFA will want Qatar to go through to justify going there in the first place, and we all know what happens when the organisers of a tournament want a certain result.

 

 

 

 

But it would require more than one or two shockers for Qatar and people would honestly question the integrity of the game if there are obvious shockers in favour of Qatar repeatedly at this WC. 

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9 minutes ago, madras said:

Have they made up some ridiculously convoluted scheme for this draw ?

 

Wouldn't say so. Four pots determined on rankings. All of Pot A is drawn across eight  groups, then all of Pot B, and so on:

 

Pot 1

Qatar, Brazil, Belgium, France, Argentina, England, Spain, Portugal.

 

Pot 2

Mexico, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Uruguay, Switzerland, USA, Croatia.

 

Pot 3

Senegal, Iran, Japan, Morocco, Serbia, Poland, South Korea, Tunisia.

 

Pot 4

Cameroon, Canada, Ecuador, Saudi Arabia, Ghana, Wales/Scotland/Ukraine*, Costa Rica/New Zealand, Peru/UAE/Australia**.

 

 

*Scotland play Ukraine, with winner playing Wales. 

**Australia play UAE, with winner playing Peru.

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3 minutes ago, madras said:

No provisos, this team from pot a can't play this team because they were in the same qualifying group etc ?

 

No team from same confederation except for UEFA teams where 2 UEFA sides can be in the same. 

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2 hours ago, Flip said:

 

Quite difficult with VAR. With that being said, their team has been doing alright as of late and in an easy group they might stand a small chance of going through. Give them a group like USA/Mexico, Tunisia and Ecuador and I can see them not completely embarassing themselves tbf. 


Fuck you

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41 minutes ago, ilikenewcastle said:

Ideal draw for me would be England, Germany, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia. One game to get us all hyped up with 2 very winnable games in case we mess it up.

 

Exactly the type of group I'm hoping for Brazil. Problem is if you mess it up and then have to play someone like France in the last 16 already. 

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6 hours ago, Flip said:

 

But it would require more than one or two shockers for Qatar and people would honestly question the integrity of the game if there are obvious shockers in favour of Qatar repeatedly at this WC. 

It would not be surprising, and plenty of people have and still are questioning the integrity of the game

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23 minutes ago, jack j said:

Germany

Serbia

Ghana

 

Ingurland to go out in the group stages

 

 

 

That was looking like the group of death initially, Putingrad and the hosts would have sealed it.

 

 

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3 hours ago, gjohnson said:

It would not be surprising, and plenty of people have and still are questioning the integrity of the game

Plenty of conspiracy theorists looking for their next hit more like 

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13 hours ago, gjohnson said:

How so, VAR has pulled/ignored some true shockers this season? 2 spectacularly bad ones for us, and no doubt every other team could quote a couple too.

 

FIFA will want Qatar to go through to justify going there in the first place, and we all know what happens when the organisers of a tournament want a certain result.

 

 

 


VAR is 99% not shit outside the PL as those refs know how to use it.

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I think the pots have worked out well this year. Even a worst case scenario group for England of Germany, Senagal and Canada would be exciting yet I'd still expect us to get out that group comfortably. 

 

Ideally though you'd want USA, Japan and Saudi. Will definitely be watching the draw today.

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