Shak Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Yeah I don't think this will be the last winter World Cup. Worked out fine really. I'm hoping that the World Cups of the future will follow the model we're seeing in 2026, with them being shared across multiple countries. The practice of building stadiums that immediately become useless once the tournament ends has to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 It's been really difficult for me during the tournament to pick between the actual legitimate criticisms of Qatar in terms of its laws and moral code (which there are many) and the stuff that has just come across as bitter European exceptionalism. Found journalists really annoying at times to be honest. The point about Qatar spending £200 billion on the World Cup for example and having X carbon footprint from constructions costs. That's obviously a misnomer designed to shock. You can't include state capital infrastructure projects like a new metro, an airport runway, major highways and new residential areas in a World Cup budget. That's just silly. This is all stuff Qatar has planned to build anyway as its population balloons. The World Cup just fitted into that existing development plan. The long term use of stadiums is the obvious caveat (and this is the major expense which should be calculated - along with all the PR expenditure) but at least they are planning to make most of them mixed use sites within development areas after the tournament. I actually don't think a continent wide tournament is that good an idea. Doha was too small, and accomodation squeeze caused excessive flights to be needed from neighbouring countries, but the principle of a smaller scale world cup with fewer stadiums is clearly implementable and preferable to spreading air travel across a whole continent for teams and fans. The next World Cup will probably be one of the cheapest to host - because the hosts probably won't need to spend a penny on stadiums or infrastructure. But spending on those things for a world cup isn't bad if it's stuff a country should be doing anyway. I've had a cursory look over some of the host stadiums for 2026 and my immediate impression is that car hire companies are probably going to do very well out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I disagree Pons in regards to fewer stadiums. Problem with fewer stadiums is that the grass doesn’t hold. The pitches in this World Cup were terrible towards the knockout stages in some stadiums and they even added artificial colours to trick the spectators. 8 stadiums for 64 games in the space of 30days just isn’t enough. The logistics for this World Cup was a nightmare as well, not to get into the country but within the country. I sincerely hope Fifa learns from this and never hosts it in one country this small again and furthermore, a country with zero footballing culture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Is football popular in Qatar? Among the population generally? if it is then I guess I’m pleased for the average person there that they got something really special even if it came at great cost to many people. However, the Qatari authorities didn’t look at the World Cup and think “wow, we love football so much, let’s bring this here to celebrate the game and do something amazing for the country.” They looked at it and thought “How can we get Qatar on the map at all costs.” I guess a lot of football federations might be similar, filled with people who care more about money than football but I can’t wait for the next World Cup when there’s less of this shit to take the shine off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, gbandit said: Is football popular in Qatar? Among the population generally? if it is then I guess I’m pleased for the average person there that they got something really special even if it came at great cost to many people. However, the Qatari authorities didn’t look at the World Cup and think “wow, we love football so much, let’s bring this here to celebrate the game and do something amazing for the country.” They looked at it and thought “How can we get Qatar on the map at all costs.” I guess a lot of football federations might be similar, filled with people who care more about money than football but I can’t wait for the next World Cup when there’s less of this shit to take the shine off Football is popular in any country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, gbandit said: Is football popular in Qatar? Among the population generally? if it is then I guess I’m pleased for the average person there that they got something really special even if it came at great cost to many people. However, the Qatari authorities didn’t look at the World Cup and think “wow, we love football so much, let’s bring this here to celebrate the game and do something amazing for the country.” They looked at it and thought “How can we get Qatar on the map at all costs.” I guess a lot of football federations might be similar, filled with people who care more about money than football but I can’t wait for the next World Cup when there’s less of this shit to take the shine off This was the most accessible world cup for folks living in the Indian subcontinent. Know a lot of fans from India who were able to attend couple of games and really enjoyed it. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity for them to watch players of the caliber of Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo play. I am assuming it is the same for fans living in the middle east. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Copyright claims mean no highlights are up on YouTube except for the one FIFA’s own account, which is 2 minutes long. What the fuck man. The best ever final with some crazy moments has been condensed into 2 minutes. You don’t even get to the see buildup of any of the goals. If fifa are that lazy with highlights then at least allow the amateur crowd to do it better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, Giselle said: Copyright claims mean no highlights are up on YouTube except for the one FIFA’s own account, which is 2 minutes long. What the fuck man. The best ever final with some crazy moments has been condensed into 2 minutes. You don’t even get to the see buildup of any of the goals. If fifa are that lazy with highlights then at least allow the amateur crowd to do it better. BBC's are 8 minutes, guessing it's geolocked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Wullie said: BBC's are 8 minutes, guessing it's geolocked? Yup, geolocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Can you not install a VPN add on to Chrome? I've found that's a good way round geolocking and some of them are free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stay-secure-with-cybergho/ffbkglfijbcbgblgflchnbphjdllaogb?hl=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Outstanding video, love to see it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Do something right for once FIFA and press charges with a minimum term, if guilty, of a life sentence https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64071206 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 It won't come to anything, we all know who gave him access. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Is this just pathetic French fans who are bawling their eyes out or Ronaldo stans? 220K signatures to get the World Cup final replayed due to officiating errors, fucking embarrassing https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/24/world-cup-final-referee-responds-to-french-criticism-with-phone-photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 On 22/12/2022 at 13:19, gbandit said: Do something right for once FIFA and press charges with a minimum term, if guilty, of a life sentence https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64071206 What an absolute creep. Embodies everything wrong with social media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Thats better than the 16 groups of 3 teams bollocks, which would have been more open to match fixing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 11/11/2022 at 17:29, Disco said: Their Dad (surprisingly not approaching 50 when this photo was taken) is the most Scottish looking man is the world. That's Alex McLeish surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Deuce said: Loads of people tweeting how bad this is, I thinks it's a cracking idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Ben said: Loads of people tweeting how bad this is, I thinks it's a cracking idea It’s a shite one for me, the WC was bloated enough with 32 teams, 48 + 8 games is a piss take. Money has driven it like this - just like the expansion of the Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 More games the better for me, nowt batter than watching Ghana v Peru at 1pm on a Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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