mrmojorisin75 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 penalties thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/HlUuuZP.gif Where does that one actually come from? You don't recognise Jerry Seinfeld? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 48 teams ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well done FIFA. Corrupt wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 penalties thing? Yesterday there were reports that there would be penalties for drawn group games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 penalties thing? Yesterday there were reports that there would be penalties for drawn group games That's such a bad idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/HlUuuZP.gif Where does that one actually come from? Seinfeld. That clip comes from Curb Your Enthusiasm I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 There are so many things wrong with the new format. Should just expand the fucking thing to 64 teams and have a straight knockout competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 There desperately needs to be a legitimate alternative to FIFA, heavily funded by those looking to breakaway to an alternative organisation that makes money without it being saturated with corruption, slavery, and ridiculous changes to the game. I can't see it happening, but I can't see any other way. No one's going to protest or riot over it, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/HlUuuZP.gif Where does that one actually come from? You don't recognise Jerry Seinfeld? I thought it might be Seinfeld but what's the actual context? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Expansion of the World Cup was always likely and probably necessary. The game is growing and I don't really think there will be a significant drop in the quality of the sides. There seems to be a good amount of competition in each federation and decent sides that will not qualify for 2018. Considering this with the money to be made from more matches and it makes too much sense to ignore. The format, however, is complete rubbish. It is possible to expand without bastardising the whole process. Why not have a 40 team tournament with 8 groups of 5 (two advancing from each group)? This only adds one match and creates and interesting dynamic with the group permutations. If we must have 48 teams, why not 12 groups of 4 (two advancing), with either the sides with the 8 best group records being rewarded with a "bye" (to the knockout round of 16) or the 8 best third placed teams qualifying for a round of 32, like in the Euro? All of these formats only add one match, while maintaining the symmetry of a tournament. FIFA hve somehow managed to select the single worst format available to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Here you go Yorkie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hope I'm dead by 2022. World Cup is the best thing, I basically spend four years waiting for the World Cup (not really), and they're ripping the soul out of it. RIP Myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The game is growing. Is it really still growing? I know China are getting in on the act and so on, but it's seemed to me that in football's bedrock of Europe its popularity is finally waning in terms of attendances and TV viewing figures. I've got the impression that the bubble bursting is getting nearer and nearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The game is growing. Is it really still growing? I know China are getting in on the act and so on, but it's seemed to me that in football's bedrock of Europe its popularity is finally waning in terms of attendances and TV viewing figures. I've got the impression that the bubble bursting is getting nearer and nearer. My statement about growth was primarily focused on Asia. The largest population center in the world, with five of the thirteen leaders in nominal GDP (economy size) only having four guaranteed places currently. Europe, Africa, and South America have already reached saturation point, football cannot "grow" anymore in these places. It is already king with no viable challenger. However TV markets can grow, and you will see this throughout Africa, North America, Asia, developing parts of Europe, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Expansion of the World Cup was always likely and probably necessary. The game is growing and I don't really think there will be a significant drop in the quality of the sides. There seems to be a good amount of competition in each federation and decent sides that will not qualify for 2018. Considering this with the money to be made from more matches and it makes too much sense to ignore. The format, however, is complete rubbish. It is possible to expand without bastardising the whole process. Why not have a 40 team tournament with 8 groups of 5 (two advancing from each group)? This only adds one match and creates and interesting dynamic with the group permutations. If we must have 48 teams, why not 12 groups of 4 (two advancing), with either the sides with the 8 best group records being rewarded with a "bye" (to the knockout round of 16) or the 8 best third placed teams qualifying for a round of 32, like in the Euro? All of these formats only add one match, while maintaining the symmetry of a tournament. FIFA hve somehow managed to select the single worst format available to them. I agree with your comments regarding the format and there being obvious better alternatives, but why is the World Cup expansion 'necessary'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 well done fifa I now actively hope the world cup dies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Why wouldn't you just actively hope it actually improves everything and turns out to be a roaring success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Good to know they are making the majority of the World Cup irrelevant like they did with the Euros last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 My big worry is that it now pushes the prospect of Canada getting the World Cup further away. Canada only have 3 stadiums that are suitable for a World Cup, well 4. Some of these are going to need renovating and extensions as well. I guess other countries will have a similar problem, but instead of having to gain half a dozen stadium they now probably need to add another 2-3 stadiums to that list. I think a Canada bid will now have to include baseball and CFL stadiums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 My big worry is that it now pushes the prospect of Canada getting the World Cup further away. Canada only have 3 stadiums that are suitable for a World Cup, well 4. Some of these are going to need renovating and extensions as well. I guess other countries will have a similar problem, but instead of having to gain half a dozen stadium they now probably need to add another 2-3 stadiums to that list. I think a Canada bid will now have to include baseball and CFL stadiums. Or they'll just have to build new ones like most countries bidding for the World Cup outside Europe do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Expansion of the World Cup was always likely and probably necessary. The game is growing and I don't really think there will be a significant drop in the quality of the sides. There seems to be a good amount of competition in each federation and decent sides that will not qualify for 2018. Considering this with the money to be made from more matches and it makes too much sense to ignore. The format, however, is complete rubbish. It is possible to expand without bastardising the whole process. Why not have a 40 team tournament with 8 groups of 5 (two advancing from each group)? This only adds one match and creates and interesting dynamic with the group permutations. If we must have 48 teams, why not 12 groups of 4 (two advancing), with either the sides with the 8 best group records being rewarded with a "bye" (to the knockout round of 16) or the 8 best third placed teams qualifying for a round of 32, like in the Euro? All of these formats only add one match, while maintaining the symmetry of a tournament. FIFA hve somehow managed to select the single worst format available to them. I agree with your comments regarding the format and there being obvious better alternatives, but why is the World Cup expansion 'necessary'? That may be a strong word to use, the World Cup can obviously continue in the same format with no problem. With the incentives on the table, the move toward expansion was always "inevitable", maybe this is a superior word. Right now, we have competitive qualifiers, but this benefits no one. No one is making money from African giants clashing early in winner take all groups, teams struggling through the grind of South America, European powers being relegated to attempts to qualify via playoff, or a difficult North American hex. If there is more money to be made by FIFA and networks showing these matches, while maintaining competitive balance, that will always be the option taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Would've been so much better if they just had that knockout thingy that was being discussed for the WC. Basically 24 teams make the World Cup and 16 teams have a sort of knockout to make the groupstages with 8 winners going to a group they've been drawn into. Would increase it to 8 more games and wouldn't mess with the perfect 8 groups of 4 teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 penalties thing? Yesterday there were reports that there would be penalties for drawn group games That's such a bad idea well the group stages did work perfectly i suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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