Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Someone's enjoyed one too may Pimms by the maypole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Wullie said: Mancini ain't even qualified for the fucking thing. Feel like I live on a different planet when I read about how England should, as well as winning everything obviously, be playing some sort of scintillating attacking football. Have any of you people ever watched an international tournament? Every decent international team is also dull as fuck, enjoying internationals has always been for the purist. Makes the waste of 02-08 when England had a potentially mean as fuck defence so frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Pile of shit, IP. this is deeply disappointing news to wake up to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Rod said: And by the way, this post is an absolute pile of shit. He's doing an awful job with probably the best talent that England have had in donkeys years. Oh by the way, we were beaten by Hungary tonight! I like it how this post ends with "btw we lost one game!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Southgate can be frustrating as fuck on a matchday but he (and obviously the other staff) have pulled together the most harmonious England squad we've probably ever had There's a massive risk that we sack him and the whole thing falls apart. Unless it was like Graham Potter I cannot think of any definite imrovements who could carry on what Southgate has done? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 One defeat, Sack Southgate, get to fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I didn't watch the game. Not really fussed about close season friendlies. As for the squad, coming together well. Semis and finals. However, they ain't 70's Brazil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Flip said: It’s a glorified friendly/qualifying tournament. No one cares about winning it. It’s great for European football as teams play against similarly ranked teams giving smaller national chances to win as well as qualify for major tournaments. However, in history no one will remember who won it. And I am one of the few that prefer international football to club football due to its charm (and Brazil always at least entering tournaments with a chance to win it compred to Newcastle :lol:) Again, I don’t think that’s accurate. I loved the first edition and how we reached the final beating Germany, France and England along the way. I think this type of disdain is similar to what we always get for the Europa League or the new Conference League. Yes, they’re not CL, but again I can tell from experience of people around me that e.g. Feyenoord reaching the Conference League final was great for them. I’d liken it to us winning the 1969 Fairs Cup. That too may have been a bit second rate as a competition, but if you’re competing in it and winning it, it still massively beats pre-season friendlies and that’s the same for the National League. Hell, I even celebrated when we won the Intertoto in 2006 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Warthog Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 We were at least competitive in the Euros, and the World Cup before that. That's not something I've seen since 1996. It may be that we're not quite there yet, but I can't go along with just getting rid of him. I think he's earned the right to have a go at the next World Cup. I can't say I'm really bothered about the Nations League... just not massively invested in it. I'm more interested in the Solihull v Grimsby play-off final! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Southgate can be frustrating as fuck on a matchday but he (and obviously the other staff) have pulled together the most harmonious England squad we've probably ever had There's a massive risk that we sack him and the whole thing falls apart. Unless it was like Graham Potter I cannot think of any definite imrovements who could carry on what Southgate has done? Guardiola is on record as wanting an international job next… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Personally think Guardiola will flop at international level. Incredible at club level with ingraining a very specific system but much harder at international level when he’d have way less time with the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, HTT II said: One defeat, Sack Southgate, get to fuck It isn't from one defeat at all you maniac ?. It's mainly down to his negative style of play since he took the job and his poor in game management in big games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Some people are honestly psychotic like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 at the back, 2 DMs for life eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 We'd rather lose 4-3 then win 1-0 and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: We'd rather lose 4-3 then win 1-0 and all that. We didn't win we 1-0 though due to our negativity Italy equalised then beat us on pens when we could have killed the game off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: We'd rather lose 4-3 then win 1-0 and all that. Straw men in defence here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: Southgate can be frustrating as fuck on a matchday but he (and obviously the other staff) have pulled together the most harmonious England squad we've probably ever had There's a massive risk that we sack him and the whole thing falls apart. Unless it was like Graham Potter I cannot think of any definite imrovements who could carry on what Southgate has done? I know someone who would be mint but it would leave us out of a Manager and Club over Country everyday for me. It's why I'm perfectly happy for Southgate to keep plodding on. I don't want to lose Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Billy Warthog said: We were at least competitive in the Euros, and the World Cup before that. That's not something I've seen since 1996. It may be that we're not quite there yet, but I can't go along with just getting rid of him. I think he's earned the right to have a go at the next World Cup. I can't say I'm really bothered about the Nations League... just not massively invested in it. I'm more interested in the Solihull v Grimsby play-off final! Well, it helps when all your games are played at home doesn’t it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Straw men in defence here. I've tried offering rationale responses, but apparently a Euro Cup final and a World Cup semi-final aren't good enough for some fans. I agree his football is quite negative, but it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Southgate has done a really good job off the pitch, don't think anyone can deny that. He's been extremely fortunate that we've had about as easy tournament paths as you could wish for in the World Cup and Euro's though. It's hard to knock a final and semi final back to back but they do feel like massive wasted opportunities at the same time. I think it's the manner of those exits that are most frustrating, just so negative and scared in the approach. Continuing to see boring negative lineups so close before the World Cup doesn't fill you with confidence we'll be trying a different approach this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I think he likes the Phillips-Rice partnership because it protects a really suspect back four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I've tried offering rationale responses, but apparently a Euro Cup final and a World Cup semi-final aren't good enough for some fans. I agree his football is quite negative, but it works. Think it is a bit like XG and the eye test. He got to the semi and final, but you could see that the team wasn't being maximised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I've tried offering rationale responses, but apparently a Euro Cup final and a World Cup semi-final aren't good enough for some fans. I agree his football is quite negative, but it works. You have to consider the teams that put us out and the manner of our exits though. Wasn't even a great Italian side they haven't even qualified for the world cup, we were more than capable of beating them and the game was there for the taking. Edited June 5, 2022 by WillingtonMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: It isn't from one defeat at all you maniac ?. It's mainly down to his negative style of play since he took the job and his poor in game management in big games. The maniacs are the ones calling for his head, the same mindset that would want KK sacked for finishing 2nd and not 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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