leffe186 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, joeyt said: You can't not play Foden with the season he's having You can’t not play Bellingham, Rice, Kane, Gordon or Saka with the seasons they’re having either. That’s why some people are picking them all and Foden. The questions are (a) will that truly be our best team? and (b) does that expose our defence too much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, leffe186 said: You can’t not play Bellingham, Rice, Kane, Gordon or Saka with the seasons they’re having either. That’s why some people are picking them all and Foden. The questions are (a) will that truly be our best team? and (b) does that expose our defence too much? Foden would play ahead of Gordon for me, though you can play both if you’re not Southgate and don’t insist on playing two holding midfielders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Foden would play ahead of Gordon for me, though you can play both if you’re not Southgate and don’t insist on playing two holding midfielders Foden has been pretty average when playing for England, but I put that purely down to Southgate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, et tu brute said: Foden has been pretty average when playing for England, but I put that purely down to Southgate Must be a come down going from Pep to Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNK Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 New coach for Brasil today and both sides with lots of players out for injury. That was BR best game in more than a year, 30s in and we were linking passes with 1 touches and backhill's, also we got very lucky with Walker's injury. For the newbies, amazing game for Bento, Beraldo, Wendell and Endrick. All of them making their debut for the national team in wembley. Special shout for Bento and Endrick. Bento, 24, first game as BR goalkeaper, at wembley against UK, first 20 minutes he was very nervous but after the first save he came into his own. Endrick, 17, always looking like a generational talent, if he continues like this, the sky isn't the limit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Saka been playing with s so Miley fit some time apparently. Eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JNK said: Bento, 24, first game as BR goalkeaper, at wembley against UK, first 20 minutes he was very nervous but after the first save he came into his own. Cue angry Scots, Welsh and Norn Iron readers Edited March 23 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Can’t believe Jeff Hendrick is scoring for Brazil and yet we have him out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Foden would play ahead of Gordon for me, though you can play both if you’re not Southgate and don’t insist on playing two holding midfielders He didn't play two holding midfielders though. Rice was holding, and Gallagher was pressing - sometimes even near the opposing penalty area. He even popped up on the RW occasionally. It could work with Foden doing that job, but then I fear that the defence as a whole is simply not good enough at either recycling the ball or defending any breakdown. Would be fun to try, but yesterday you had a back four where three players weren’t quite up to it after Walker went off, which is a disaster waiting to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, leffe186 said: He didn't play two holding midfielders though. Rice was holding, and Gallagher was pressing - sometimes even near the opposing penalty area. He even popped up on the RW occasionally. It could work with Foden doing that job, but then I fear that the defence as a whole is simply not good enough at either recycling the ball or defending any breakdown. Would be fun to try, but yesterday you had a back four where three players weren’t quite up to it after Walker went off, which is a disaster waiting to happen. He didn’t vs Brazil, but it’s been his preference for some time. It was ‘experimental’ vs Brazil. Southgate is too conservative not to revert to type when it counts The defence and goalkeepers are a long way short IMO - particularly the centre half options. Maguire is just shite at that level - that back pass … but then look at the other options. Dunk is hardly an international class centre back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: He didn’t vs Brazil, but it’s been his preference for some time. It was ‘experimental’ vs Brazil. Southgate is too conservative not to revert to type when it counts The defence and goalkeepers are a long way short IMO - particularly the centre half options. Maguire is just shite at that level - that back pass … but then look at the other options. Dunk is hardly an international class centre back I agree but really don’t get why Tomori hasn’t gotten more of a look in. I thought he was exceptional against us in the CL. Especially the 1st leg. Plays for a top side like AC but never really gets a sniff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, Likelylad said: I agree but really don’t get why Tomori hasn’t gotten more of a look in. I thought he was exceptional against us in the CL. Especially the 1st leg. Plays for a top side like AC but never really gets a sniff. Yeah I’d have given Tomori a go. Odd that he hasn’t been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Does Southgate rate foden? He used to be benched a lot under his tenure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 31 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: He didn’t vs Brazil, but it’s been his preference for some time. It was ‘experimental’ vs Brazil. Southgate is too conservative not to revert to type when it counts The defence and goalkeepers are a long way short IMO - particularly the centre half options. Maguire is just shite at that level - that back pass … but then look at the other options. Dunk is hardly an international class centre back Agreed on the defence. It’s not even the clangers with Maguire: he makes routine little defensive errors that get exploited by players at this level. Couple that with Chilwell having a mare and that’s the left side of defence up the Khyber. I thought Pickford was terrific though. Not half as worried about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 29 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yeah I’d have given Tomori a go. Odd that he hasn’t been Isn’t he still injured? Picked up a nasty one in December that was supposed to keep him out for at least a couple of months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, leffe186 said: Isn’t he still injured? Picked up a nasty one in December that was supposed to keep him out for at least a couple of months. Been back since the start of March. So longer than Chilwell the perma-crock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 8 hours ago, El Prontonise said: Eh Edit: not sure why that came out like I was wrestling my phone off the dog. Not even sure what it was meant to say. Anyway, apparently Saka is carrying a knock and has been playing with pain killing injections for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, Magpie said: Been back since the start of March. So longer than Chilwell the perma-crock That’s weird unless he’s been speaking to Milan and trying to manage the injury a bit. Seemed like Tomori was a solid fixture in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Not sure why any of our fans give a fuck about England the amount of shite we get from other clubs fans Could never imagine going to watch them sat next to mackems and Everton fans who give us shit week in week out Fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 33 minutes ago, jack j said: Not sure why any of our fans give a fuck about England the amount of shite we get from other clubs fans Could never imagine going to watch them sat next to mackems and Everton fans who give us shit week in week out Fuck that. I was working at HMV on Oxford St when England played Argentina in the Beckham game. Me and an Arsenal fan (hope you’re doing well, Jeff) were in the pub jumping up and down, hugging and screaming when the Campbell “goal” went in. Genuinely one of the best moments I’ve ever had as a football supporter, albeit very brief. It’s up to you of course. I support Spurs because of my Dad and growing up in the community. I support England because of my Dad and growing up in the community. I feel a little bad that you’re missing out on a lot of stuff, but if you don’t support England then that’s it. Just…you’re doing it because some other fans were nasty to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Nothing we didn't already know before. Some quality players in forward positions held back by a shite manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Saw a fair bit of the game (no audio) at a bar last night. This England feels like Belgium's golden era team - wasted by Martinez/Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, jack j said: Not sure why any of our fans give a fuck about England the amount of shite we get from other clubs fans Could never imagine going to watch them sat next to mackems and Everton fans who give us shit week in week out Fuck that. My way of thinking too. And the fact they play their home games 6 hours away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 10 hours ago, leffe186 said: You can’t not play Bellingham, Rice, Kane, Gordon or Saka with the seasons they’re having either. That’s why some people are picking them all and Foden. The questions are (a) will that truly be our best team? and (b) does that expose our defence too much? We had Gallagher in a more defensive role yesterday, get regularly bypassed by Brazil and defence exposed loads by simple balls. So it wouldn’t be any more exposed. Sick of watching England in the games against ‘named’ sides, and Southgate take the cautious, pragmatic approach. Why our record is so poor in them, like 4 wins in 25 against top 10 ranked countries at the time? Argument mostly comes down to, a defensive approach wins tournaments. But how about trying our own approach and changing that narrative whilst we’ve got an abundance of exciting attacking talent. Maguire is Maguire, we’ll concede one from a mistake in big games regardless, but at set up to create more and hopefully score more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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