Astroblack Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Yorkie said: Find Bellingham very unlikeable. I get it, but I think we need it. About time we have a dickhead in the team to go at refs, dugouts and pop up with decisive goals at decisive times. Feel like England have been the "nice guys" for too long. He is cringe, the celebration is cringe, but if he can keep producing, I'm happy to go along with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Bellingham avoiding a ban whilst Demiral gets banned for 2 games absolutely stinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 May be commenting without all the facts but was Demirals not political and Bellingham wasn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 hours ago, Ste said: What’s the gesture mean, “I’ve got big balls”? It’s the way he puts his hand to his mouth before he does it that confuses me. Yes I don't understand the gesture either haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Lish007 said: Yes I don't understand the gesture either haha I think it's more of a testicular invitation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Weirdly the best I've ever seen England play in my lifetime has always involved less common formations. The Christmas tree in 96, 352 (or something similar) in 98, then again in 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Bellingham is getting a bit tetchy as a result of the pressure. Really tough for the players mentally to put the effort in individually but for the team performance to be shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 7 hours ago, Astroblack said: I get it, but I think we need it. About time we have a dickhead in the team to go at refs, dugouts and pop up with decisive goals at decisive times. Feel like England have been the "nice guys" for too long. He is cringe, the celebration is cringe, but if he can keep producing, I'm happy to go along with it. He's a prick! Bellingham that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Most 21 year olds are, imagine being 21 and being in his position I dunno about you but my ego would be unbridled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 How dare you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Southgate supporters always compare his record of reaching semis and finals to past managers. To be fair to Southgate, you can only beat what is before you. But is international football at its weakest in a long time? My first World Cup memory is Italia 1990. Sir Bobby Robson's England had to face the Netherlands, Ireland, and Egypt in the group stage. That Dutch team had Koeman, Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard. I remember that Ireland team being tough to beat as well. That tournament had Italy, Argentina, the Netherlands, and West Germany as the top teams. Every tournament from 1994 to 2012 had at least two teams which was so much better than the current versions. Or is it just me starting to grow old and grump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 32 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said: Southgate supporters always compare his record of reaching semis and finals to past managers. To be fair to Southgate, you can only beat what is before you. But is international football at its weakest in a long time? My first World Cup memory is Italia 1990. Sir Bobby Robson's England had to face the Netherlands, Ireland, and Egypt in the group stage. That Dutch team had Koeman, Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard. I remember that Ireland team being tough to beat as well. That tournament had Italy, Argentina, the Netherlands, and West Germany as the top teams. Every tournament from 1994 to 2012 had at least two teams which was so much better than the current versions. Or is it just me starting to grow old and grump. 82 we battered platini and that great french side in the opening game, won every group game, drew aganst the germans, got knocked out as we couldnt take our chances against spain. didnt lose a single game. 86 from the 3rd game onwards we were brilliant and could have beaten argentina if lineker had managed to scramble in that chance at the far post - we had battered them for the last half hour or so. 90 thought we were the better team against germany in the semi's 96 outplayed the germans 98 unlucky against argentina - dodgy disallowed goal. all much better than any of the shite under southgate. they were true heroic failures but with southgate its just been white flags against croatia and italy. no real effort to win those games. and this tournament...... robson, venables and hoddle would change line ups when needed and make proactive subs. Edited July 5 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Honestly have a feeling England and France might bore/fluke themselves into the final. Would be a quite fitting end to this tournament too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I don't think any team has looked particularly good, Spain perhaps has stood out amongst a bad bunch but both games were pretty dire today and watching them made me think maybe we aren't that awful (in comparison). I think the game has changed and for the worse for spectators. This whole tournament has been a chore, the frustration for England is that we play with our foot on the brake, we see glimpses but few and far between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 12 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Weirdly the best I've ever seen England play in my lifetime has always involved less common formations. The Christmas tree in 96, 352 (or something similar) in 98, then again in 2018. 96 was a fantastic side imo - was so well balanced - you basically had Pearce and Platt (and Neville) acting as your flexible positional options meaning you could change from a 4411 to 3511 pretty comfortably - added to this you had players who were so comfortable on the ball - was a really good team that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Remember that formation where Beckham played as quarterback? Bit weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Baffling that TAA isn't playing RWB later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 31 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Baffling that TAA isn't playing RWB later. I don't understand what Southgates problem with him is. It's mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I'm torn. On one hand I felt really sorry for Trippier getting rinsed to pieces by fans and pundits of other teams making out he is worse than shit. All of them forgetting that if played on the right he is infinitely better than Kyle Walker on the ball. But he should never play left back and that's on Southgate not Kieran. On the other, if he plays on the right today and struggles aswell, because it's been awhile since we have seen the form he started last season in, he's going to get dogs abuse worse than before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Si said: I don't understand what Southgates problem with him is. It's mental. no one understands him, man. in his his own little world he's a tactical genius. honestly think he's thick as fuck when it comes to football tactics. and steven holland? how did he even get that job and what does he bring to the game? deschamps, martinez etc - at least they got themselves some decent top level management experience before they were let loose on the international scene. we've presented our latest golden generation the the fella that got boro relegated. Edited July 6 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 11 minutes ago, alexf said: I'm torn. On one hand I felt really sorry for Trippier getting rinsed to pieces by fans and pundits of other teams making out he is worse than shit. All of them forgetting that if played on the right he is infinitely better than Kyle Walker on the ball. But he should never play left back and that's on Southgate not Kieran. On the other, if he plays on the right today and struggles aswell, because it's been awhile since we have seen the form he started last season in, he's going to get dogs abuse worse than before. To not take a single LB in an extended 26 man squad is crazy - by all means take a gamble on Shaw, that’s fine - I’m guessing Chilwell isn’t injured? No harm in taking one of Hall and Mitchell either Bloke is on crack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 He justified taking Luke Shaw because of the 3 extra places but not taking a left footed LB was ridiculous Mitchell is a much better LB than Trippier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 What's the overall feeling over here? Are you all hyped up for this afternoon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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