triggs Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 He probably wouldn't have got to the ball, aye but he still got fouled. If someone passes a ball to the opposing team and then an opponent comes in with a late tackle its still a foul. People go on about it being a contact sport but basically anything that involves your legs impeding the other player's legs without getting the ball is a foul and rightly so It wasn’t a challenge for the ball and didn’t impede the Italy player in any way. He accidentally stood on his foot, with the ball pretty much already out of play. The fact that the Italy players were more interested in appealing for a corner says it all. How many times a game does a goalkeeper accidentally collide with a player when getting the ball from a corner? Is that a foul too? By your definition it is. Contact is inevitable in the game and it’s already sanitised enough. He still fouled him. If the bloke plays a bad pass and then someone comes in and steps on his toes accidentally late it's still a foul. The Italian players were probably looking at the ball and didn't see it. The keeper argument is irrelevant. I never said all contact is a foul. Contact between legs or feet which stops a player continuing their run or makes them fall over is a foul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Only just catching up with highlights from last night. Love the finish from Vardy, really powerful and accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 He probably wouldn't have got to the ball, aye but he still got fouled. If someone passes a ball to the opposing team and then an opponent comes in with a late tackle its still a foul. People go on about it being a contact sport but basically anything that involves your legs impeding the other player's legs without getting the ball is a foul and rightly so It wasn’t a challenge for the ball and didn’t impede the Italy player in any way. He accidentally stood on his foot, with the ball pretty much already out of play. The fact that the Italy players were more interested in appealing for a corner says it all. How many times a game does a goalkeeper accidentally collide with a player when getting the ball from a corner? Is that a foul too? By your definition it is. Contact is inevitable in the game and it’s already sanitised enough. He still fouled him. If the bloke plays a bad pass and then someone comes in and steps on his toes accidentally late it's still a foul. The Italian players were probably looking at the ball and didn't see it. The keeper argument is irrelevant. I never said all contact is a foul. Contact between legs or feet which stops a player continuing their run or makes them fall over is a foul Well when a keeper goes for the ball he often makes contact between legs and/or feet causing players to fall over - so it must be a foul then. It was absolutely never a foul last night, an accidental collision that caused no disruption to Italy’s attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 He probably wouldn't have got to the ball, aye but he still got fouled. If someone passes a ball to the opposing team and then an opponent comes in with a late tackle its still a foul. People go on about it being a contact sport but basically anything that involves your legs impeding the other player's legs without getting the ball is a foul and rightly so It wasn’t a challenge for the ball and didn’t impede the Italy player in any way. He accidentally stood on his foot, with the ball pretty much already out of play. The fact that the Italy players were more interested in appealing for a corner says it all. How many times a game does a goalkeeper accidentally collide with a player when getting the ball from a corner? Is that a foul too? By your definition it is. Contact is inevitable in the game and it’s already sanitised enough. He still fouled him. If the bloke plays a bad pass and then someone comes in and steps on his toes accidentally late it's still a foul. The Italian players were probably looking at the ball and didn't see it. The keeper argument is irrelevant. I never said all contact is a foul. Contact between legs or feet which stops a player continuing their run or makes them fall over is a foul Well when a keeper goes for the ball he often makes contact between legs and/or feet causing players to fall over - so it must be a foul then. It was absolutely never a foul last night, an accidental collision that caused no disruption to Italy’s attacking play. No, a keeper doesn't use his legs to take down another player's legs. It doesn't happen. It was a foul, he stood on his foot preventing him from running forward, it's a foul anywhere on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 He probably wouldn't have got to the ball, aye but he still got fouled. If someone passes a ball to the opposing team and then an opponent comes in with a late tackle its still a foul. People go on about it being a contact sport but basically anything that involves your legs impeding the other player's legs without getting the ball is a foul and rightly so It wasn’t a challenge for the ball and didn’t impede the Italy player in any way. He accidentally stood on his foot, with the ball pretty much already out of play. The fact that the Italy players were more interested in appealing for a corner says it all. How many times a game does a goalkeeper accidentally collide with a player when getting the ball from a corner? Is that a foul too? By your definition it is. Contact is inevitable in the game and it’s already sanitised enough. He still fouled him. If the bloke plays a bad pass and then someone comes in and steps on his toes accidentally late it's still a foul. The Italian players were probably looking at the ball and didn't see it. The keeper argument is irrelevant. I never said all contact is a foul. Contact between legs or feet which stops a player continuing their run or makes them fall over is a foul Well when a keeper goes for the ball he often makes contact between legs and/or feet causing players to fall over - so it must be a foul then. It was absolutely never a foul last night, an accidental collision that caused no disruption to Italy’s attacking play. No, a keeper doesn't use his legs to take down another player's legs. It doesn't happen. It was a foul, he stood on his foot preventing him from running forward, it's a foul anywhere on the pitch My first reaction on seeing it was it was a foul. Can't stand on someons foot in the box when they are running with the ball, whether it's an accident or not is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 what if he's not running with the ball cos he's already punted it away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 what if he's not running with the ball cos he's already punted it away Why talk about that when it's not what happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 what if he's not running with the ball cos he's already punted it away You still can't stand on their foot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 what if he's not running with the ball cos he's already punted it away Why talk about that when it's not what happened seemed that way to me. also, do we var encroachment in the box on pens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Encroachment is a massive pet hate of mine. This is one of my personal favourites. What makes it worse is that the pen is saved and a Wolves player who has encroached, clears it to safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Problem with the Italy penalty yesterday is that he's already going down before there's accidental contact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If the striker cant put the ball in the net from a free strike from 12 yards then no sympathy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Problem with the Italy penalty yesterday is that he's already going down before there's accidental contact. Aye well he's been pushed or shouldered fairly by Tarkowski beforehand so was a bit off balance, then he gets stood on, then he dives theatrically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Talking of encroachment into the area for penalties, it's nearly a year since Ritchie's was wrongly ruled out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Talking of encroachment Uh oh. into the area Oh fucking hell, no. for penalties Phew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 One of the maddest things I've seen in a football match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 what if he's not running with the ball cos he's already punted it away Why talk about that when it's not what happened seemed that way to me. also, do we var encroachment in the box on pens? urrghh, yeah that's shit with people going in box early. That and the shoving that goes on with corners will always be rarely picked up on. Anyway, ball wasn't punted away when it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Talking of encroachment into the area for penalties, it's nearly a year since Ritchie's was wrongly ruled out. Is it the same referee in Figures' Wolves photo who disallowed our penalty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Talking of encroachment into the area for penalties, it's nearly a year since Ritchie's was wrongly ruled out. Is it the same referee in Figures' Wolves photo who disallowed our penalty? Aye - Keith Stroud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 what if he's not running with the ball cos he's already punted it away Why talk about that when it's not what happened seemed that way to me. also, do we var encroachment in the box on pens? urrghh, yeah that's shit with people going in box early. That and the shoving that goes on with corners will always be rarely picked up on. Anyway, ball wasn't punted away when it happened. I mean, the ball was punted away, but that's the most supporting angle for your argument. There is a prior angle that shows the ball a couple of feet in-front of him and travelling at some pace. Not really an argument worth having tbh. As far as I'm concerned the ball wasn't playable at this point and it comes under the "coming together" remit. People get stood on all the time. It didn't stop him doing anything of note as he was never getting another touch on the ball. I would also argue, that VAR was supposed to be for clear/obvious/mega-blatant decisions. I find it hard to classify this under one of those categories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On another note, i’d Love Jamie Vardy playing for Newcastle. Double figure a season Premier League striker and England international? Aye, wouldn't be bad, like. I just mean compared to players at a similar level. Not saying he’s better than Kane but i’d rather have Vardy than Kane for some reason. Well that's just mental. Oh, I get that, I just really love watching Vardy. Kane's better, but I don't enjoy watching him. He is great to watch like, that's a good shout. And his face doesn't look like he's had a lobotomy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Talking of encroachment Uh oh. into the area Oh fucking hell, no. for penalties Phew. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On another note, i’d Love Jamie Vardy playing for Newcastle. Double figure a season Premier League striker and England international? Aye, wouldn't be bad, like. I just mean compared to players at a similar level. Not saying he’s better than Kane but i’d rather have Vardy than Kane for some reason. Well that's just mental. Oh, I get that, I just really love watching Vardy. Kane's better, but I don't enjoy watching him. He is great to watch like, that's a good shout. And his face doesn't look like he's had a lobotomy. Just a moderate amount of crystal meth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Kane has everything, got to be first choice. Dunno how you would fit them both in though as Vardy would definitely suit playing against teams who will press high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Most of the media reporting that Pickford, Butland and Hart (FFS!) are the three keepers with Mr The Rave On first choice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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