The College Dropout Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 That was the future of English football I seen tonight? You would just dismiss it as a poor performance if you hadn't seen England side after England side play in a similar manner at international tournaments. Just looking up some of those Portuguese players. Many regularly play competitive, top flight football. European football too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 England we're so disappointing man. Love the talent in that squad, but as some of you have alluded to, these kids just don't get to play regularly at a more challenging level. They're disgustingly priced as soon as they show any promise, so no one but the rotten clubs like Chelsea buy these kids and then just continue to ferry them off to championship clubs or crappy prem clubs at the best, because the more decent prem clubs don't want to be feeder clubs, and rightly so! Until their prices drop I just can't see how things will ever change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 England we're so disappointing man. Love the talent in that squad, but as some of you have alluded to, these kids just don't get to play regularly at a more challenging level. They're disgustingly priced as soon as they show any promise, so no one but the rotten clubs like Chelsea buy these kids and then just continue to ferry them off to championship clubs or crappy prem clubs at the best, because the more decent prem clubs don't want to be feeder clubs, and rightly so! Until their prices drop I just can't see how things will ever change. The price isn't the problem. It's that PL clubs don't want to take a risk on these players. Rather bring in an established name, usually foreign. They just don't get the game time. It's taken literally Superman performances for Kane to get into the Spurs first team. JWP is a regular for S'hampton. Apart from Ings & Jenkinson (who looked good when he came on), the rest of the squad would struggle to accumulate 100 PL appearances. Look at us, rather spend £10m on Dost than Bamford. We have a risk averse managerial culture here in England. Few managers would do a Wenger and give the likes of Chambers so many games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 England we're so disappointing man. Love the talent in that squad, but as some of you have alluded to, these kids just don't get to play regularly at a more challenging level. They're disgustingly priced as soon as they show any promise, so no one but the rotten clubs like Chelsea buy these kids and then just continue to ferry them off to championship clubs or crappy prem clubs at the best, because the more decent prem clubs don't want to be feeder clubs, and rightly so! Until their prices drop I just can't see how things will ever change. The price isn't the problem. It's that PL clubs don't want to take a risk on these players. Rather bring in an established name, usually foreign. They just don't get the game time. It's taken literally Superman performances for Kane to get into the Spurs first team. JWP is a regular for S'hampton. Apart from Ings & Jenkinson (who looked good when he came on), the rest of the squad would struggle to accumulate 100 PL appearances. Look at us, rather spend £10m on Dost than Bamford. We have a risk averse managerial culture here in England. Few managers would do a Wenger and give the likes of Chambers so many games. Yes but £10 million for Dost gets you someone that scored bucket loads in Herenveen's first team for years, and then is coming off a great season at atop German club. As opposed to a youngster who has never played outside the championship, and in fact has only had one good season in said Championship. This is why cl;ubs will veer towards the foreign market. The price of the English youngster doesn't compute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'd rather buy nobody than spend 10m on crap like Dost, hardly the best example tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 England we're so disappointing man. Love the talent in that squad, but as some of you have alluded to, these kids just don't get to play regularly at a more challenging level. They're disgustingly priced as soon as they show any promise, so no one but the rotten clubs like Chelsea buy these kids and then just continue to ferry them off to championship clubs or crappy prem clubs at the best, because the more decent prem clubs don't want to be feeder clubs, and rightly so! Until their prices drop I just can't see how things will ever change. The price isn't the problem. It's that PL clubs don't want to take a risk on these players. Rather bring in an established name, usually foreign. They just don't get the game time. It's taken literally Superman performances for Kane to get into the Spurs first team. JWP is a regular for S'hampton. Apart from Ings & Jenkinson (who looked good when he came on), the rest of the squad would struggle to accumulate 100 PL appearances. Look at us, rather spend £10m on Dost than Bamford. We have a risk averse managerial culture here in England. Few managers would do a Wenger and give the likes of Chambers so many games. I agree on the whole, but you can't really point a finger at Spurs. Dier, Mason, Kane and Townsend have all had plenty of time with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Czech Republic are all over Serbia here, 2-0 up after twenty minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 3-0 cool finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 4-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 4-0! Crazy! Not quite sure how this Serbia side drew with Germany a few days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Maybe they were up early on the piss watching the u20 final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Would guess their squad isn't as strong because of that U20 team, really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Would guess their squad isn't as strong because of that U20 team, really Their U20 was underwhelming as fuck. No idea how they actually managed to win the thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Serbia have a decent history at youth level IIRC, I'm assuming because players get blooded earlier in the domestic league over there they mature a little quicker. Then it all seems to go to shit at full level, their senior side has to be one of, if not the most, underperforming sides going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Deutschland 1-0. Good goal that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Who's this Yunus lad on the left for Germany? Been quality so far, beaten his man almost every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Yeah i like Younes as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Younes...class again.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Sweden vs England today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Sweden vs England today Aye, looking forward to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Kliment hat trick for Chzec Republic was very good, the left fullback was steaming forward didn't catch his name but was involved in most of the goals assisting two. Both those players look impressive. Tuned in because I thought the lad we are interested in might be playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Just seen the starting 11's. Will Hughes must be the ugliest player in this tournament? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Ings on the bench again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 What is the reason behind leaving players like Stones and Chambers on the bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonImms Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I think there's a rule with regards to concussion that you aren't allowed to play for a certain amount of days. I like Will Hughes but JWP should certainly be starting ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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