LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Lashing out off the ball won't impress Rafa. Lucky he got away with it. He wouldn't get away with that in a Newcastle shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Seems to be enjoying Fulham as much if not more than us, obviously playing more helps but I think he just gets totally immersed in his current surroundings. He's playing every week and scoring goals. If they get promoted and he struggles for goals in the Premier, he'd probably stop enjoying it as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 in 13 for Fulham now. That's decent form. He's been MOTM in 6 games too. My concern is that you look at his goals for Fulham and most of them involve Fulham being collectively high up the pitch, with plenty of width on both sides. That just isn't how we play. So you look at his highlights and the temptation is to say he's improving and he's getting better at being in goal scoring positions. To me this is a symptom of how Fulham set up. I think if he was playing for us he would be spending too much time away from the goal and as such not really threatening. Of course, we may add some quality to the team and I think he brings good variety to a forward line. I'd like to see us keep him on balance but I can't see him being a line leading striker for us in the short to medium term. The above is academic if he doesn't apply himself in training in the manner expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 in 13 for Fulham now. That's decent form. He's been MOTM in 6 games too. My concern is that you look at his goals for Fulham and most of them involve Fulham being collectively high up the pitch, with plenty of width on both sides. That just isn't how we play. So you look at his highlights and the temptation is to say he's improving and he's getting better at being in goal scoring positions. To me this is a symptom of how Fulham set up. I think if he was playing for us he would be spending too much time away from the goal and as such not really threatening. Of course, we may add some quality to the team and I think he brings good variety to a forward line. I'd like to see us keep him on balance but I can't see him being a line leading striker for us in the short to medium term. The above is academic if he doesn't apply himself in training in the manner expected. Also would be interesting to see if Fulham can maintain their style of play successfully if they get to the Premier. They are quite adventurous which is great, but at that level you need to be pretty ruthless at both ends of the pitch to do well. It's one thing Liverpool or Spurs playing a high line, but will Fulham have the funds to finance the sort of quality squad to make it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Radge packet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 The real shame is Tim Cahill is still alive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Hold on, Tim Cahill plays for Millwall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 in 13 for Fulham now. That's decent form. He's been MOTM in 6 games too. My concern is that you look at his goals for Fulham and most of them involve Fulham being collectively high up the pitch, with plenty of width on both sides. That just isn't how we play. So you look at his highlights and the temptation is to say he's improving and he's getting better at being in goal scoring positions. To me this is a symptom of how Fulham set up. I think if he was playing for us he would be spending too much time away from the goal and as such not really threatening. Of course, we may add some quality to the team and I think he brings good variety to a forward line. I'd like to see us keep him on balance but I can't see him being a line leading striker for us in the short to medium term. The above is academic if he doesn't apply himself in training in the manner expected. Also would be interesting to see if Fulham can maintain their style of play successfully if they get to the Premier. They are quite adventurous which is great, but at that level you need to be pretty ruthless at both ends of the pitch to do well. It's one thing Liverpool or Spurs playing a high line, but will Fulham have the funds to finance the sort of quality squad to make it work? He scored against both Manchesters and Spurs last time out, he got goals against Arsenal for Anderlecht when he was a kid, scoring against quality opposition doesn't seem an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 in 13 for Fulham now. That's decent form. He's been MOTM in 6 games too. My concern is that you look at his goals for Fulham and most of them involve Fulham being collectively high up the pitch, with plenty of width on both sides. That just isn't how we play. So you look at his highlights and the temptation is to say he's improving and he's getting better at being in goal scoring positions. To me this is a symptom of how Fulham set up. I think if he was playing for us he would be spending too much time away from the goal and as such not really threatening. Of course, we may add some quality to the team and I think he brings good variety to a forward line. I'd like to see us keep him on balance but I can't see him being a line leading striker for us in the short to medium term. The above is academic if he doesn't apply himself in training in the manner expected. Said it a few pages back. He's undeniably in good form, but he was shite (as was everyone else at the time) under Rafa's tactics and I suspect his form would dip as soon as he came back if we didn't start playing much further up the pitch. I would love us to keep him and play to his strengths, and if we had a revolving door of managers I definitely would, but I don't really think it will work out that way and I love Rafa loads more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 In his current form, I reckon he would have got us an equaliser on Monday. But since if he was here he wouldn't have played for a year, he wouldn't have been in that form, and would have been more likely to remove that little blond lad's head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Friday can't come soon enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I love him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 in 13 for Fulham now. That's decent form. He's been MOTM in 6 games too. My concern is that you look at his goals for Fulham and most of them involve Fulham being collectively high up the pitch, with plenty of width on both sides. That just isn't how we play. So you look at his highlights and the temptation is to say he's improving and he's getting better at being in goal scoring positions. To me this is a symptom of how Fulham set up. I think if he was playing for us he would be spending too much time away from the goal and as such not really threatening. Of course, we may add some quality to the team and I think he brings good variety to a forward line. I'd like to see us keep him on balance but I can't see him being a line leading striker for us in the short to medium term. The above is academic if he doesn't apply himself in training in the manner expected. Also would be interesting to see if Fulham can maintain their style of play successfully if they get to the Premier. They are quite adventurous which is great, but at that level you need to be pretty ruthless at both ends of the pitch to do well. It's one thing Liverpool or Spurs playing a high line, but will Fulham have the funds to finance the sort of quality squad to make it work? He scored against both Manchesters and Spurs last time out, he got goals against Arsenal for Anderlecht when he was a kid, scoring against quality opposition doesn't seem an issue. You could probably say something similar about Gayle in his playing career, it's the consistency which is the issue. Also whether you can set up a team to get the best out of him and still be effective in the Premier for the reasons I mentioned. We had him here for a season under McClaren and he didn't do enough then, so it's hard to tell whether that was down to him or the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That elbow is ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Hold on, Tim Cahill plays for Millwall? Was news to me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 How has he not actually been banned for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 How has he not actually been banned for it? Insane isn't it, unless they don't have retrospective action in the football league. I know we got Dummett and Shelvey's red cards pulled back in the Forest game, surely it works in reverse too ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Cahill got pulled up on retrospective action. The problem is we're only getting that one angle of it where what happens is on the other side. The FA will have had many more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 That elbow is ridiculous yet people still wonder why Rafa doesnt trust him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 That elbow is ridiculous yet people still wonder why Rafa doesnt trust him People aren't wondering that. They're saying Rafa should've played him over Joselu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 That elbow is ridiculous yet people still wonder why Rafa doesnt trust him People aren't wondering that. They're saying Rafa should've played him over Joselu. Plenty are like. "He hasnt even had a red card for 2 years!" or whatever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 That elbow is ridiculous yet people still wonder why Rafa doesnt trust him People aren't wondering that. They're saying Rafa should've played him over Joselu. The two are one and the same, though, aren’t they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 That elbow is ridiculous yet people still wonder why Rafa doesnt trust him People aren't wondering that. They're saying Rafa should've played him over Joselu. Plenty are like. "He hasnt even had a red card for 2 years!" or whatever That’ll be because he hasn’t. He’s also not been suspended retrospectively for the above incident - yet Cahil has been for his elbow. If the incident was as bad as it looks, I’d suspect that Cahill/Millwall would have pointed to the Mitro incident and questioned why he hasn’t been retrospectively banned. As others have said, it’s difficult to see the full extent of it without another angle. Cahill made absolutely nothing of it either (didn’t even go down injured at time IIRC), so maybe it’s nowhere near as bad as it looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 However it "looks" it was obviously a brainless thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I think the video above is a large reason why he was frozen out. Rafa just doesn't trust his temperament and who can blame him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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