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Rafas single mindedness is one of his strongest assets but also one of his weaknesses.

 

Mitrovic, Mbemba and Mbabu are all better than Gayle, Joselu, Manquillo, Dummett, Clark and a 30 year old Fernandez

 

Like everyone he makes decisions which some agree with and others don't. 

 

I'm sure Bobby Robson told Shearer to stay within the width of the 18 yard box.  Mitros instructions should have been the same to get the best out of him

Not that the two are anywhere near in the same league, but when Pardew was given players like Ben Arfa we all said a good manager should adapt the game to suit his best players, particularly attackers.

 

The narrative always changes for Rafa, it's like admitting hes not perfect makes you less of a fan, its like a weird cult thing which actually makes the deluded tag seem less of a myth.

 

Okay, I'll bite.

 

Pretty to easy to counter this in a few different ways.

 

1. Rafa's decisions come with the weight of his past successes, Pardew's came with the weight of his past failures.

2. Rafa's decision with Mitrovic was vindicated with success, Pardew's decision with Ben Arfa was compounded with failure.

3. The team that Pardew had was far superior to the one Rafa has - i.e. Pardew's team needed less protection than this one does.

4. Ben Arfa was a far, far superior, more influential player for us than Mitrovic ever was, as you've said, but I'd also say that Mitrovic also wasn't good enough to be accommodated in the way you could argue Ben Arfa could have been.

5. Probably the most crucial part in all of this - if Rafa had Ben Arfa I don't expect he would play him and I probably wouldn't like it, but I'm far happier to put my disagreements to one side with a manager that's won everything and is likely to regularly vindicate his decisions and prove me wrong, than with one whose won nothing and had already produced some of the worst NUFC results and worst NUFC football I've ever seen in my life by the time I started getting seriously pissed off with his non-inclusion of Ben Arfa.

 

 

It's not a cult, it's just putting your petty grievances to one side when you can see that his decisions are vindicated. If Pardew had gotten results without Ben Arfa I'd have treated the situation the same, but as we all know he didn't get the results or the performances, and so the criticisms had a lot more credence.

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Dinho lad

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its so enjoyable reading this tread...after every mitros goal...and he scored week after week...

liability...shitrovic...no pace..no brain...

 

He has no pace and is not particularly "intelligent" - and he was largely ineffective for us.

 

Good luck to him but it's been pretty much wrong club and wrong player at the wrong time.

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KaKa

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Rafas single mindedness is one of his strongest assets but also one of his weaknesses.

 

Mitrovic, Mbemba and Mbabu are all better than Gayle, Joselu, Manquillo, Dummett, Clark and a 30 year old Fernandez

 

Like everyone he makes decisions which some agree with and others don't. 

 

I'm sure Bobby Robson told Shearer to stay within the width of the 18 yard box.  Mitros instructions should have been the same to get the best out of him

Not that the two are anywhere near in the same league, but when Pardew was given players like Ben Arfa we all said a good manager should adapt the game to suit his best players, particularly attackers.

 

The narrative always changes for Rafa, it's like admitting hes not perfect makes you less of a fan, its like a weird cult thing which actually makes the deluded tag seem less of a myth.

 

Okay, I'll bite.

 

Pretty to easy to counter this in a few different ways.

 

1. Rafa's decisions come with the weight of his past successes, Pardew's came with the weight of his past failures.

2. Rafa's decision with Mitrovic was vindicated with success, Pardew's decision with Ben Arfa was compounded with failure.

3. The team that Pardew had was far superior to the one Rafa has - i.e. Pardew's team needed less protection than this one does.

4. Ben Arfa was a far, far superior, more influential player for us than Mitrovic ever was, as you've said, but I'd also say that Mitrovic also wasn't good enough to be accommodated in the way you could argue Ben Arfa could have been.

5. Probably the most crucial part in all of this - if Rafa had Ben Arfa I don't expect he would play him and I probably wouldn't like it, but I'm far happier to put my disagreements to one side with a manager that's won everything and is likely to regularly vindicate his decisions and prove me wrong, than with one whose won nothing and had already produced some of the worst NUFC results and worst NUFC football I've ever seen in my life by the time I started getting seriously pissed off with his non-inclusion of Ben Arfa.

 

 

It's not a cult, it's just putting your petty grievances to one side when you can see that his decisions are vindicated. If Pardew had gotten results without Ben Arfa I'd have treated the situation the same, but as we all know he didn't get the results or the performances, and so the criticisms had a lot more credence.

 

Excellent post man. So good.

 

:thup:

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PartizanFC

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its so enjoyable reading this tread...after every mitros goal...and he scored week after week...

liability...shitrovic...no pace..no brain...

Haven't you found a Fulham forum to frequent now?

 

I thought when Mitro transferred to another club so would you.

 

Yes i found..

But i am also fun of this club..not strong as before..but i am glad to see every victory or good game...didnt miss not even 1 game if is televised...

You are in the problems now...same as my partizan fc..but i hope better days will come for both clubs...

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"I like Newcastle"

 

"Get the fuck out of here"

 

:lol:

Fairly sure the same bloke once said something like he hoped Newcastle got hammered in a game because Mitro wasn't picked :lol:

 

Oh, he might have for all I know. I just found that particular exchange amazing :lol:

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PartizanFC

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"I like Newcastle"

 

"Get the fuck out of here"

 

:lol:

Fairly sure the same bloke once said something like he hoped Newcastle got hammered in a game because Mitro wasn't picked :lol:

 

Lol...yes i am..long time ago...i was very pissed..and what is the point?i cant be fan becouse of 1 sentance?you will bloke me?

All feel better if i said instead of something hopefull about NUFC that i wish you to be relegated?weird...or i missing a point?

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"I like Newcastle"

 

"Get the fuck out of here"

 

:lol:

Fairly sure the same bloke once said something like he hoped Newcastle got hammered in a game because Mitro wasn't picked :lol:

 

Lol...yes i am..long time ago...i was very pissed..and what is the point?i cant be fan becouse of 1 sentance?you will bloke me?

All feel better if i said instead of something hopefull about NUFC that i wish you to be relegated?weird...or i missing a point?

 

:kasper:

 

Not sure what this is, but it doesn’t sound nice.

 

:lol:

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"I like Newcastle"

 

"Get the fuck out of here"

 

:lol:

Fairly sure the same bloke once said something like he hoped Newcastle got hammered in a game because Mitro wasn't picked :lol:

 

Lol...yes i am..long time ago...i was very pissed..and what is the point?i cant be fan becouse of 1 sentance?you will bloke me?

All feel better if i said instead of something hopefull about NUFC that i wish you to be relegated?weird...or i missing a point?

 

:kasper:

 

Not sure what this is, but it doesn’t sound nice.

 

:lol:

 

triggs would definitely bloke him tbf given half a chance.

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Amir_9

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Not this thread again LOL

 

This chap simply did not do as much as he should have here, when will folks get over it. He was given his chances in an inferior league he did not shine the way fucking Amoebi or a Lovenkrands did either.

 

So hes with a manager of his nationality and a team that plays to his strengths and voila, seems to be doing well.

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