henke Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 At the start of the summer I was certain Sissoko would go but now I'm not so sure, Liverpool was the obvious move but it now seems unlikely. Like Mole I'd be ok with him going if it meant quality signings. At the start of the window I didn't think they'd happen, but we're two / three decent signings in and hopeful of more. If it keeps going like this we might just has a season to look forward too. Big if. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 At the start of the summer I was certain Sissoko would go but now I'm not so sure, Liverpool was the obvious move but it now seems unlikely. Like Mole I'd be ok with him going if it meant quality signings. At the start of the window I didn't think they'd happen, but we're two / three decent signings in and hopeful of more. If it keeps going like this we might just has a season to look forward too. Big if. To expand on that, the only reason i'm ok with it is because it seems like he's going to be a winger and that is just a massive waste IMO. If you are going to use him like that, might as well sell him for an actual wide man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 To be honest I'm not convinced Sissoko will go this summer. I mean I think Wijnaldum is his long term replacement, but IMO we'll still want a big fee for him and considering the season he's just had I can't see that happening. Still has 4 years left on his contract so we won't be desperate to sell right away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 To be honest I'm not convinced Sissoko will go this summer. I mean I think Wijnaldum is his long term replacement, but IMO we'll still want a big fee for him and considering the season he's just had I can't see that happening. Still has 4 years left on his contract so we won't be desperate to sell right away. Same here, just no viable takers that I can see either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 At the start of the summer I was certain Sissoko would go but now I'm not so sure, Liverpool was the obvious move but it now seems unlikely. Like Mole I'd be ok with him going if it meant quality signings. At the start of the window I didn't think they'd happen, but we're two / three decent signings in and hopeful of more. If it keeps going like this we might just has a season to look forward too. Big if. To expand on that, the only reason i'm ok with it is because it seems like he's going to be a winger and that is just a massive waste IMO. If you are going to use him like that, might as well sell him for an actual wide man. If as predicted we play 4-2-3-1 and he is wide in the 3, is he really a winger. From what I've seen over the past year or two that seems like his best position, scope to come inside or outside especially with a full back like Janmaat as support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 To be honest I'm not convinced Sissoko will go this summer. I mean I think Wijnaldum is his long term replacement, but IMO we'll still want a big fee for him and considering the season he's just had I can't see that happening. Still has 4 years left on his contract so we won't be desperate to sell right away. Same here, just no viable takers that I can see either Don't think we can afford to lose him either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 At the start of the summer I was certain Sissoko would go but now I'm not so sure, Liverpool was the obvious move but it now seems unlikely. Like Mole I'd be ok with him going if it meant quality signings. At the start of the window I didn't think they'd happen, but we're two / three decent signings in and hopeful of more. If it keeps going like this we might just has a season to look forward too. Big if. To expand on that, the only reason i'm ok with it is because it seems like he's going to be a winger and that is just a massive waste IMO. If you are going to use him like that, might as well sell him for an actual wide man. If as predicted we play 4-2-3-1 and he is wide in the 3, is he really a winger. From what I've seen over the past year or two that seems like his best position, scope to come inside or outside especially with a full back like Janmaat as support. Depends how we play i suppose, it's really one big load of assumptions on my part as i haven't seen us play in Pre season and a lot of the key players haven't played much yet and we'll probably buy more would-be key players before September. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 To be honest I'm not convinced Sissoko will go this summer. I mean I think Wijnaldum is his long term replacement, but IMO we'll still want a big fee for him and considering the season he's just had I can't see that happening. Still has 4 years left on his contract so we won't be desperate to sell right away. Same here, just no viable takers that I can see either Don't think we can afford to lose him either. Probably not, but if we lost him and replaced with Shaqiri or Thauvin or just a genuine quality winger with work rate then it's a no brainer. It's fine keeping him to play wide and backup cm but he generally offers little in the middle so let's just get a winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 When do we find out the results of his visa application? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Probably wont tbf. It's obviously a foregone conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Probably wont tbf. It's obviously a foregone conclusion. Aye. Serbia are 43rd in the world rankings. And being in the top 50 makes it easier when applying for a VISA for sporting excellence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Given his record over the last few seasons, what are realistic expectations for his first year here? 15 goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/fZxla04.png http://i.imgur.com/RW2GE6r.jpg Ah, I see. Thought it was some pun or joke or something I'd missed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Given his record over the last few seasons, what are realistic expectations for his first year here? 15 goals? 20 goals in 37 matches last season. Coming to a tougher league now, in a worse team with less support, I'd say realistic would be 10-12 goals assuming that he evolves as a player this year. If we get a good winger in before the season starts, I would say 15 goals would be realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 We don't know about selection of him vs Cisse yet either, will be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Cisse will be on the bench, like he was a lot of last year. I'm pretty sure that for the most part that the striker, midfield 3 ( as in De Jong plus two behind him) and defense picks itself. It's the wings which is the confusing part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You think Mitrovic 'picks himself' ahead of Cisse? I'm not so sure, Cisse guarantees PL goals while Mitrovic is young and new to the league. It's good to have the dilemma obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Think 15 + or - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You think Mitrovic 'picks himself' ahead of Cisse? I'm not so sure, Cisse guarantees PL goals while Mitrovic is young and new to the league. It's good to have the dilemma obviously. Mainly because of the money involved, i really cannot see this club benching a new striker for someone who was already getting benched last year ( rightly or wrongly) Also i think he potentially brings more to the table than Cisse, no point benching him and waiting for him to " adapt " never did understand that with Pardew. Surely if you are going to adapt it would be best to play as many as games as early as possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You might be right, I don't mind either way TBH (although I really like Cisse). I thought Cisse was benched last season because of fitness more than anything else. Anyway, I just hope we don't get rid of Cisse because going into the season with two 20 year-old strikers would be a massive risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Aye i want him to stay as well, someone who needs so little to score can be a very good asset to have on the bench even if he isn't starting games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think McClaren likes a target man too as a focal point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You might be right, I don't mind either way TBH (although I really like Cisse). I thought Cisse was benched last season because of fitness more than anything else. Anyway, I just hope we don't get rid of Cisse because going into the season with two 20 year-old strikers would be a massive risk. Do you believe McClaren sees Perez as a striker? I think he is more in competition with Aarons, Cabella, and possibly Sissoko for his position, than Mitrovic, Cisse, and Riviere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You might be right, I don't mind either way TBH (although I really like Cisse). I thought Cisse was benched last season because of fitness more than anything else. Anyway, I just hope we don't get rid of Cisse because going into the season with two 20 year-old strikers would be a massive risk. Do you believe McClaren sees Perez as a striker? I think he is more in competition with Aarons, Cabella, and possibly Sissoko for his position, than Mitrovic, Cisse, and Riviere. I don't really know, I agree he's not ideal to play upfront on his own though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Do think Perez is basically cover for De Jong in that position, also wouldn't be surprised if that's what he was bought for in the first place and he just happened to be really good a lot quicker than the club expected and De Jong never played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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