DJ_NUFC Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 15:31, Disco said: This is why Rafa is special. Within a couple of hours of the story breaking, he lays down the gauntlet. Now let's compare this behaviour to Pardew's... "Every player's fo saWe, innit, we can never rule out outgoings, we're not Soufampton or a sovereign power..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 15:57, DJ_NUFC said: Quote This is why Rafa is special. Within a couple of hours of the story breaking, he lays down the gauntlet. Now let's compare this behaviour to Pardew's... "Every player's fo saWe, innit, we can never rule out outgoings, we're not Soufampton or a sovereign power..." In fairness, Pardew did say similar about Carroll.... twice - the 2nd time just days before he was sold. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9308072.stm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/8263133/Newcastle-manager-Alan-Pardew-insists-Andy-Carroll-is-not-for-sale-amid-reports-of-30-million-Tottenham-bid.html Sadly, if the right / high enough bid comes in, it doesn't matter what the manager says or wants, it what the owner does that matters. Pardew though, did just fall into policy line after that, which Rafa clearly wont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If someone offered say 50 or 60 million I could see us taking it and Rafa may consider it if he thought that money could be used to improve us more than keeping him. If he got the money we received of course ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 50-60mil i dont think any of us would be to upset, id hate to see him go but id also pull their arm of taking it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:26, danny said: 50-60mil i dont think any of us would be to upset, id hate to see him go but id also pull their arm of taking it Yip it would be excellent money. We shouldn't consider selling for under 40 given current market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:26, danny said: 50-60mil i dont think any of us would be to upset, id hate to see him go but id also pull their arm of taking it We’d all be upset. Far more valuable than cash in the bank. Even £100m wouldn’t be worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 £20m West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 With him leaving not the money, didnt we only pay a mil or so for him and darlow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:34, danny said: With him leaving not the money, didnt we only pay a mil or so for him and darlow Why does the money matter? We don’t spend it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:34, danny said: With him leaving not the money, didnt we only pay a mil or so for him and darlow 8 million for both iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:37, Elliottman said: Quote With him leaving not the money, didnt we only pay a mil or so for him and darlow 8 million for both iirc Ok fair enough, niceone bud just checked and ssn say 7mil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 14:51, SEMTEX said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote London has a massive pull on players decisions, not all players but it does have a big pull. Hence why some Northern clubs have to payer a high a wage to attract players. Bollocks. London clubs pay more seeing as it costs 2 grand a month to live in a shed, here. Its well known Northern clubs have had to pay more to get bigger players. Foreign players mostly, as they have more amenities available, don't think British players are as bothered. I think plenty of British players are bothered, but I think it's more the ones who have never spent more than 10 minutes in Newcastle that just assume it's a barren wasteland full of dole monkeys and bh home bargains's's. Basically they think the North is just an array of Sunderlands. I really don't agree, most Brits from other parts of the country see Newcastle as the premier northern city, the sunderlands and middlesbroughs are like the bogs and marshes on the way. Or maybe that's just my perception, I always thought we were a little bit special and everyone else saw us like Kevin Keegan did. I mean, not to be harsh, but I think this is one of the reasons for the deluded geordie stereotype. I don't believe people who have spent little time up here think that Newcastle is special in any way. It's just a norvern town really far away from everything. Especially for those who were born in London. You're not taking the football factor into it, players know that this is a football city and that counts for something, that's why we have been able to attract big managers down the years IMO. If you want to talk about deluded Geordies you need to look at these guys who are thinking anyone's going to offer £50-60m or make that £100m in the posts before this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:49, TRon said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote London has a massive pull on players decisions, not all players but it does have a big pull. Hence why some Northern clubs have to payer a high a wage to attract players. Bollocks. London clubs pay more seeing as it costs 2 grand a month to live in a shed, here. Its well known Northern clubs have had to pay more to get bigger players. Foreign players mostly, as they have more amenities available, don't think British players are as bothered. I think plenty of British players are bothered, but I think it's more the ones who have never spent more than 10 minutes in Newcastle that just assume it's a barren wasteland full of dole monkeys and bh home bargains's's. Basically they think the North is just an array of Sunderlands. I really don't agree, most Brits from other parts of the country see Newcastle as the premier northern city, the sunderlands and middlesbroughs are like the bogs and marshes on the way. Or maybe that's just my perception, I always thought we were a little bit special and everyone else saw us like Kevin Keegan did. I mean, not to be harsh, but I think this is one of the reasons for the deluded geordie stereotype. I don't believe people who have spent little time up here think that Newcastle is special in any way. It's just a norvern town really far away from everything. Especially for those who were born in London. You're not taking the football factor into it, players know that this is a football city and that counts for something, that's why we have been able to attract big managers down the years IMO. If you want to talk about deluded Geordies you need to look at these guys who are thinking anyone's going to offer £50-60m or make that £100m in the posts before this one. If thats directed at me i wasnt saying they would just id be happy with that amount buddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 16:49, TRon said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote London has a massive pull on players decisions, not all players but it does have a big pull. Hence why some Northern clubs have to payer a high a wage to attract players. Bollocks. London clubs pay more seeing as it costs 2 grand a month to live in a shed, here. Its well known Northern clubs have had to pay more to get bigger players. Foreign players mostly, as they have more amenities available, don't think British players are as bothered. I think plenty of British players are bothered, but I think it's more the ones who have never spent more than 10 minutes in Newcastle that just assume it's a barren wasteland full of dole monkeys and bh home bargains's's. Basically they think the North is just an array of Sunderlands. I really don't agree, most Brits from other parts of the country see Newcastle as the premier northern city, the sunderlands and middlesbroughs are like the bogs and marshes on the way. Or maybe that's just my perception, I always thought we were a little bit special and everyone else saw us like Kevin Keegan did. I mean, not to be harsh, but I think this is one of the reasons for the deluded geordie stereotype. I don't believe people who have spent little time up here think that Newcastle is special in any way. It's just a norvern town really far away from everything. Especially for those who were born in London. You're not taking the football factor into it, players know that this is a football city and that counts for something, that's why we have been able to attract big managers down the years IMO. If you want to talk about deluded Geordies you need to look at these guys who are thinking anyone's going to offer £50-60m or make that £100m in the posts before this one. Apart from nobody said that. I said he’s worth more to us on the pitch than any amount in the bank. But you knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The dildo brothers are having a laugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Nowadays that’s the equivalent of £2m 15 years ago. So je’s Worth £60m now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 West Ham can fuck off with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Probably reckon he's worth an absolutely bonkers £40m in the current market. Reckon Ashley will bite their hands off for £30m. And sign Robert Huth as a direct replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Nobody has confirmed the bid is actually real yet. But the topic title just made me when I saw it. #notreal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 i was gonna say has it been confirmed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 13:34, ToonTastic said: Quote Way to low offer, but I understand why they are testing the water, Ashley might accept something like 30-35 for him, buy cheap, sell high. Textbook. He sold Andy Carroll before all the top flight money for that much. No chance he'd sell that cheap. He may be happy to sell players (though to be fair usually only when we get relegated) but he tends to get their true worth for them. Oh, I am sure he will hold out for top bucks. But I am 100% sure he will sell at the "right" price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 12:15, nufcjb said: That offer is so fucking insane with the amount of money in the league now and a player of Lascelles quality. Van Djik went fo £70m. Stones for £50m. Lascelles should be around that amount too. Maguire went for 18m and most people think he's the better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 20:18, Away Toon said: Quote That offer is so fucking insane with the amount of money in the league now and a player of Lascelles quality. Van Djik went fo £70m. Stones for £50m. Lascelles should be around that amount too. Maguire went for 18m and most people think he's the better player. Was down to his last year of contract. edit: also Hull has been relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 20:18, Away Toon said: Quote That offer is so fucking insane with the amount of money in the league now and a player of Lascelles quality. Van Djik went fo £70m. Stones for £50m. Lascelles should be around that amount too. Maguire went for 18m and most people think he's the better player. He wouldn't go for less than 50-60 today though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If players like Lascelles leave it will be down to the complete lack of ambition the club has despite having Rafa as manager and nobody could blame him for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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